We are missing Content between Normal and Extreme. Wrong Audience for Chaotic

[Immut]

Right, so...I'm just going to come out and say it: Chaotic is not meant for your average player. The problem? Chaotic is coordinated by 24 Players. THAT CAN'T SCREW UP.

I promise you I have gotten to enrage while screwing up many times, you can absolutely screw up. There's only one part where you can't, and that's towers 1. And if people are dying at towers 1, you weren't getting through towers 2.

[Orcasgt22]

Chaotic is the perfect bridge between EX and Savage. Its Savage mechanics but with EX forgiveness. 1 or two people screwing up every mech wont wipe and is clearable. The only issue is 24 man and all the frustrations that come with having 24 people in one group in an MMO. But mechanically and difficulty curve wise, perfect middle ground

[IvoryHawk]

Right, so...I'm just going to come out and say it: Chaotic is not meant for your average player. The problem? Chaotic is coordinated by 24 Players. THAT CAN'T SCREW UP.

Wait till the months over, there won't be many more prog parties for Chaotic even, as bad as it may sound, Chaotic would benefit what BA/DRS had, a community discord like late night chaos, coordinated runs with one (ONE) strat only, nobody is going to even want to do it with new people and just farm with clear only parties for better odds, am i saying that this game should rely on discords that help people prog and learn? nope, but this content will be dead without it soon enough sadly, just more tone deaf content that i've only streamers seem to be fawning over because they did it with their "community" for the most part, and think this is the best thing to happen to the game lmao.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Wait till the months over, there won't be many more prog parties for Chaotic even, as bad as it may sound, Chaotic would benefit what BA/DRS had, a community discord like late night chaos, coordinated runs with one (ONE) strat only, nobody is going to even want to do it with new people and just farm with clear only parties for better odds, am i saying that this game should rely on discords that help people prog and learn? nope, but this content will be dead without it soon enough sadly, just more tone deaf content that i've only streamers seem to be fawning over because they did it with their "community" for the most part, and think this is the best thing to happen to the game lmao.

Chaotic is the perfect bridge between EX and Savage. Its Savage mechanics but with EX forgiveness. 1 or two people screwing up every mech wont wipe and is clearable. The only issue is 24 man and all the frustrations that come with having 24 people in one group in an MMO. But mechanically and difficulty curve wise, perfect middle ground

The hardest part for me right now is just finding a party to join. For the last two nights, I have been on PF looking for a fresh prog group using the strat I want to learn. I spent an hour both nights looking and never could find one so I gave up and went to play marvel rivals instead. I even joined a CARCOD discord already and that has been helpful honestly bc unlike how BA was there is no queue system you can sign up and get pinged when I spot opens. Seems to me the fight is already dying down a bit or most are not doing fresh parties anymore and are already in P2. I know I could make my own PF but I really don't like making PFs bc I don't like having the responsibilities that come from being party lead, I would feel bad if I had to leave and disband a party after just an hour or so of prog. Yeah...Im going to try tonight but I have a feeling the hardest part of this will be and always be getting ppl to do it since it requires 3x as ppl as normal content.

Edited: Tried again today(1/3) and still no luck. 3 days in arow I cant find a single fresh prog party that using the strat I want to learn...guess tomorrow I just learn the other strat that I think is worst but wherever...I hate this content already

[TheGrimace]

I'm so done with having to do PF to maneuver into content. It sucks with 4 people, it sucks with 8 people, and and sure as hell sucks with 24 people.

[Espon]

My biggest issue with Chaotic is that people are simply unwilling to commit and learn. You wait 20 minutes for a group to form, you wipe once and someone leaves, then 5-9 other people leave and you're back to waiting for the group to refill.

However, what I don't understand is why all content needs to have just 1 difficulty. "Oh but raids have Normal and Savage" you say! Except the fights are designed completely different with Savage or Extreme sometimes having very little carried over from Normal. When you look at WoW, their raids have 4 difficulties. These aren't 4 differently designed encounters for each boss, but instead damage and boss HP is increased and more challenging mechanics are added to the mix. It would save a lot on development time not having to make multiple different fights for each boss. It would also give players of varying skill levels something to do instead of forcing mid-core players to wait 2.5 patch cycles for something challenging but not extremely unforgiving.

Take the new Chaotic Raid and split it into 3 difficulties and adjust the amount of demimateria and chests are awarded based on that. You'll have to up the price of equipment but it'll balance out, like say 8 for helm/glove/boots, 12 for chest/legs, and 396 for the Shroud of Darkness.

Normal mode: Chance of a chest per group with 1 coffer, minion or hairstyle inside. Awards 1 Clouddark Demimateria I.
Hard mode: Guaranteed chest with 1 coffer inside and chance of mount, minion, or hairstyle. Awards 3 Clouddark Demimateria I and 1 Clouddark Demimateria II.
Chaotic mode: Guaranteed chest with 2 coffers inside with higher chance for mount, minion, or hairstyle. Awards 8 Clouddark Demimateria I and 1 Clouddark Demimateria II, plus 2 bonus Clouddark Demimateria II for each player getting their first clear.