should 8.0 cut the harder content back in exchange for-

[Kohashi]

It's because you let hardcore players define what midcore is. They tend to paint midcore content as a difficulty, when most the time, it's not. That's why they paint exploratory zones as casuals things. It sure is entry difficulty, but most casuals won't touch that content with stick. If they do, there is a possibility they entered the midcore players zone, despite thinking of themselves as casual. I like to use the example of Zepla wanting to do a video about how EW was bad for casuals, thinking she belonged there since she stopped raiding just to realise while talking with actual casuals how she knew nothing about being casual (which was obvious to everyone but her, honestly). The post above mine is another example of that deep dungeon and relics are not casual content, despite being simple enough.

Zepla was a hardcore raider, she also cleared DRS (last I watched her) while the fight was current, which is an achievement in itself. EW Asphodelos was casual, Abyssos was more hardcore mostly because of how front-loaded some of the fights were and how much the fights relied on everyone being consistent + p8s which was mad hard on release, and Anabaseios was dirt easy and also casual (except p10s which was a wall for PF cause god forbid they knew how to do bonds 3).

Just because you are terrible at the game doesn't mean there's something wrong with the content nor does it mean they have to cater to you specifically. Savage might not be low-end casual, those are Extremes but it is mid-core.

You rather sit in the forums crying about content being too hard but god forbid you invest the time in bettering yourself.

[CNitsah]

Zepla was a hardcore raider, she also cleared DRS (last I watched her) while the fight was current, which is an achievement in itself. EW Asphodelos was casual, Abyssos was more hardcore mostly because of how front-loaded some of the fights were and how much the fights relied on everyone being consistent + p8s which was mad hard on release, and Anabaseios was dirt easy and also casual (except p10s which was a wall for PF cause god forbid they knew how to do bonds 3).

Just because you are terrible at the game doesn't mean there's something wrong with the content nor does it mean they have to cater to you specifically. Savage might not be low-end casual, those are Extremes but it is mid-core.

You rather sit in the forums crying about content being too hard but god forbid you invest the time in bettering yourself.

Did you actually read what I wrote. I mean, I'm just reporting what she said herself. She stopped raiding at a time and considered at that time she engaged with the game casually, and it's at that time she wanted to make a video on how bad the game was for casuals, just to realise by talking with casuals that even in that time, she did not engage casually with the game. The video became a video about midcore content. She was a hardcore player having big bias about what it means to be a casual player. Which is what I was trying to illustrate.

I never said anything about the quality of the content, never said it should cater to me, and never said that there was something wrong with it (except for its lack thereof), but that hardcore players tend to have heavy bias towards what's casual and what's not. You're a proof of that, you just called savage content casual. It's proof enough for any casual or midcore player you don't have any idea what it means to be a casual player...

Seriously, none of your answer to my post have anything to do with what I said. You seem to have a big problem with basic reading comprehension. There was two main point in my post that I repeated several times : being classified as content for hardcore, midcore or casual players is not limited to difficulty and how hardcore players had a biased vision on what was casual and midcore players. Yet you still managed to miss them both. Talk about answering to an argument made up in your head.

[Kohashi]

Did you actually read what I wrote. I mean, I'm just reporting what she said herself. She stopped raiding at a time and considered at that time she engaged with the game casually, and it's at that time she wanted to make a video on how bad the game was for casuals, just to realise by talking with casuals that even in that time, she did not engage casually with the game. The video became a video about midcore content. She was a hardcore player having big bias about what it means to be a casual player. Which is what I was trying to illustrate.

I never said anything about the quality of the content, never said it should cater to me, and never said that there was something wrong with it (except for its lack thereof), but that hardcore players tend to have heavy bias towards what's casual and what's not. You're a proof of that, you just called savage content casual. It's proof enough for any casual or midcore player you don't have any idea what it means to be a casual player...

Seriously, none of your answer to my post have anything to do with what I said. You seem to have a big problem with basic reading comprehension. There was two main point in my post that I repeated several times : being classified as content for hardcore, midcore or casual players is not limited to difficulty and how hardcore players had a biased vision on what was casual and midcore players. Yet you still managed to miss them both. Talk about answering to an argument made up in your head.

Zepla is not immune to bad takes, and if you mean bias as in, the moment you engage with the highest level of gameplay in this game there is no going back, then yes, because everything else will seem lackluster and boring.

I will never craft, I will never do fates, I will never do criterion, I will never do relic grind, I will never do side quests, I will never do society grind, I will never do Palace of the dead, I will never do jumps, I will never do Achievements grind, I will never do RP or eRP, I very rarely do maps and I will never sit around in Limsa looking at people's plates or iddling/chatting randomly. Probably I have missed some stuff too, but you cannot tell me there is a lack of things to do.

[CNitsah]

Zepla is not immune to bad takes, and if you mean bias as in, the moment you engage with the highest level of gameplay in this game there is no going back, then yes, because everything else will seem lackluster and boring.

I will never craft, I will never do fates, I will never do criterion, I will never do relic grind, I will never do side quests, I will never do society grind, I will never do Palace of the dead, I will never do jumps, I will never do Achievements grind, I will never do RP or eRP, I very rarely do maps and I will never sit around in Limsa looking at people's plates or iddling/chatting randomly. Probably I have missed some stuff too, but you cannot tell me there is a lack of things to do.

Once again you put words I didn't say in my mouth...

[BigCheez]

Zepla is not immune to bad takes, and if you mean bias as in, the moment you engage with the highest level of gameplay in this game there is no going back, then yes, because everything else will seem lackluster and boring.

I will never craft, I will never do fates, I will never do criterion, I will never do relic grind, I will never do side quests, I will never do society grind, I will never do Palace of the dead, I will never do jumps, I will never do Achievements grind, I will never do RP or eRP, I very rarely do maps and I will never sit around in Limsa looking at people's plates or iddling/chatting randomly. Probably I have missed some stuff too, but you cannot tell me there is a lack of things to do.

There's a lot to do if you're a new player who hasn't done it already. If you've been playing the game for years and are caught up on all the old stuff, a new patch lasts a week at most and then you have literally nothing for 4 months.