FFXIV has lost it's heart

[ZephyrMenodora]

i think tht feeling is called disgust

Indeed haha.

Whatever is going on, something does feel off and I hope they find the magic again.

[Reimmi]

My worst moment with the game lately was logging in the other day to unlock the new Society Quest. Spend about 5 minutes bouncing between NPCs for meaningless dialogue, then unlocked the quests... And proceeded to fight 1 mob, speak to 1 NPC, and apply an item to 3 Alpacas. I know I'm not going to get anything massively ground breaking with side-quest dailies, but this is ARR-level of quest design. I haven't been playing much since I cleared the MSQ, and this has pretty much sent be scurrying back under my rock until something interesting comes out.

ARR quest design had more gameplay actually.
This is post-arr quest design if anything, where they stripped all gameplay to make it just visual novel quests

[Exmo]

I think a lot of you are projecting. Dawntrail was great, you've just been playing this game for too many years and you need a break.

[Enkidoh]

Nah it's just certain players have unrealistic and completely subjective expectations of how the game should be designed and then complain when it inevitably doesn't meet those expectations. The Chicken Littles have been shouting the sky is falling since ARR, so this is unsurprising.

[hydralus]

ARR quest design had more gameplay actually.

Such as? I can't recall anything in ARR that had more depth than "Interact with this" and "Kill 3-4 things".

[Supersnow845]

Such as? I can't recall anything in ARR that had more depth than "Interact with this" and "Kill 3-4 things".

It think it would be more fair to say ARR “felt” like it had more gameplay because it didn’t blatantly continue to use the same quest design unapologetically even if the beats often repeated

Like we meme about “return to the waking sands” but at least different things happened on each outing

How many times in DT did the quest sequence go

“Talk to wuk Lamat” -> “talk to 3 townsfolk” -> “talk to the important person” -> “report what the important person said to wuk Lamat”

[hydralus]

It think it would be more fair to say ARR “felt” like it had more gameplay because it didn’t blatantly continue to use the same quest design unapologetically even if the beats often repeated

Like we meme about “return to the waking sands” but at least different things happened on each outing

How many times in DT did the quest sequence go

“Talk to wuk Lamat” -> “talk to 3 townsfolk” -> “talk to the important person” -> “report what the important person said to wuk Lamat”

So it's story related again, not core gameplay mechanic. That's the structure of the way the story was told/presented, nothing to do with 'gameplay'.

[ReynTime]

The beast tribe quests are more or less the exact same as they have always been. It is not exclusive to Dawntrail

The only exception is with ARR requiring fates to spawn, which I am positive people hated because of how long it can take to get the specific one

They're not the same as ARR at all. ARR beast tribe quests, or even Stormblood beast tribe quests had more variety of objectives compared to Dawntrail so far.

[Hallarem]

Lol. How is Dawntrail edgy? Its the most softcore shonen "tell, dont show, heres a "culture" aaaaaand moving on"

It makes naruto look like game of thrones in comparison.

[Hallarem]

What made 14 good was how it treated you like an adult by making the world seem realistic and it moving along with the story.

It all started coming apart when anime antagonist Zenos came along, shook his fat behind and destroyed Garlemald offscreen.
The more shonen melodrama anime FFXIV becomes, the worse it gets. Its already enough that Hildibrand is the reason we have now boinkidy boink cartoon effects in the MSQ and any sort of nuance.

If they cant hire new people because of nobody applying. Its sad, but they HAD it with HW, lots of Stormblood and Shadowbringers. They can have it again. But what they have dished out now is not promising.