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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    They have made WHM and SGE slightly more appealing before, with a short phase dps check that's outside of 2 minutes like p4 TOP.

    You can choose to run SGE/WHM and move Phlegma/Misery into the phase if you're struggling with the check. Because outside of 2 minutes, SCH and AST dps is nothing special.

    If they make more short phase dps checks where you can't rely on 2 minute alignment, that makes SGE more appealing than SCH in groups with weaker damage.
    To be fair even in that situation SCH still was played 3 to 1 more times than SGE.

    AST and WHM can be fixed with damage niches (because regen healing is inherently useless), but the entire game is designed around the output of the shield healer and SCH is just such a better shield healer than SGE
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    To be fair even in that situation SCH still was played 3 to 1 more times than SGE.

    AST and WHM can be fixed with damage niches (because regen healing is inherently useless), but the entire game is designed around the output of the shield healer and SCH is just such a better shield healer than SGE
    I think they could give SGE a niche if they went all in on the damage healer aspect.

    If, for example, SGE has less mitigative tools, still enough to clear, but they have instead vastly superior damage over SCH.

    So in this case, with a SGE, you'd just barely survive mechanics if mitigation is perfect but you have a larger leeway on the dps check. Meanwhile, SCH doesn't provide the large leeway but you have a much safer run overall.

    That way, SGE gets a niche filling in for lower total dps teams or speedkilling, while SCH remains the more generalist barrier healer. It wouldn't make SGE a vastly popular pick, but it would give them a niche to shine in.
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