Do you think that Picto needs a nerf?

[Supersnow845]

Please play as melee in current savage tier, because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

And again I’ll say being pushed away for half a GCD doesn’t count

When was the last time we had a mechanic line junction shiva or light rampart (the original) where you actively had to design a unique strat that was 4* as dangerous and twice as hard just to allow your melees to have decent uptime that wasn’t always implemented. The full uptime light rampart strat was a monster compared to the standard but if you wanted to fight for uptime you actively did it. Now every mechanic is either solved with 100% uptime or 100% enforced downtime

Being pushed out for half a GCD because of a chariot or being shoved to the other arena where you couldn’t even hit the boss anyway doesn’t count as the type of actual downtime that used to bend strategies around it

[VerySadDRG]

Now every mechanic is either solved with 100% uptime or 100% enforced downtime

Being pushed out for half a GCD because of a chariot or being shoved to the other arena where you couldn’t even hit the boss anyway doesn’t count as the type of actual downtime that used to bend strategies around it

I hope you'll try to stay on platform in 1st phase of M4S. Spoiler: you'll die in 2 hits without extra heals and mit (especially DRGs and VPRs, for they don't have any mitigation tools). And to make things worse, you drift your GCD alignment, you lose usage of some OGCDs, you lose autos, you lose dot ticks, so you're punished for that "100 enforced downtime" and not getting any type of compensation, while casters are completely safe and do everything as usual.

And that half of GCD can cost you either whole usage of it in burst window, or can cost you stuff like Bhavacakra that generates from GCDs. Casters, on the other hand, have means to deal with suff like that with either slidecasts, personal instacasts or a swiftcast.

I would understand that type of discussion during 6.x, where you had to try really hard to lose uptime, but it isn't the case rn.

[Supersnow845]

I hope you'll try to stay on platform in 1st phase of M4S. Spoiler: you'll die in 2 hits without extra heals and mit (especially DRGs and VPRs, for they don't have any mitigation tools). And to make things worse, you drift your GCD alignment, you lose usage of some OGCDs, you lose autos, you lose dot ticks, so you're punished for that "100 enforced downtime" and not getting any type of compensation, while casters are completely safe and do everything as usual.

And that half of GCD can cost you either whole usage of it in burst window, or can cost you stuff like Bhavacakra that generates from GCDs. Casters, on the other hand, have means to deal with suff like that with either slidecasts, personal instacasts or a swiftcast.

I would understand that type of discussion during 6.x, where you had to try really hard to lose uptime, but it isn't the case rn.

Yes about the single example of enforced downtime and one that punishes you with resource mismanagement. A fair point. Does it justify the 5-10% extra damage the melees do over the non PCT ranged players. You tell me

Then think of all the times that you are forced to move alot or you watch the ranged players have to move a lot. Thats their downtime. Is the amount of time the casters are forced to move when they don’t particularly want to not on average greater than the amount of time the melees are forced away from the boss

[VerySadDRG]

Yes about the single example of enforced downtime and one that punishes you with resource mismanagement. A fair point. Does it justify the 5-10% extra damage the melees do over the non PCT ranged players. You tell me

No, I like the idea of casters and melees doing approximately the same damage and think it sould work that way, because both of them have to deal with their fair share of problems (and would love to see RDM do a bit better than it does now, because it has to deal with casts, uptime and RNG on top of that).

Well, except for SMN, it deserves to sit there with phys ranged, lol.

[Supersnow845]

No, I like the idea of casters and melees doing approximately the same damage and think it sould work that way, because both of them have to deal with their fair share of problems (and would love to see RDM do a bit better than it does now, because it has to deal with casts, uptime and RNG on top of that).

Well, except for SMN, it deserves to sit there with phys ranged, lol.

Then you and I are in agreement, I was pushing back against the idea that melee should do MORE purely based on uptime considerations

I have zero problem with the 3 casters and the 6 melee doing roughly equitable damage