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  1. #101
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    Alicia Crowe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    So they needed to invent some new mcguffin so they can go "oh no, the villain has somehow powered up enough to compete with the universe-ending godkiller that is the WoL."
    Not aiming this at you, just bouncing off of that part particularly.The thing I find weird about statements like these is that FF14 already knows what to do with overpowered characters: Stormblood's entire premise revolved around attacking the Garleans from opposite angles specifically because Zenos was a one man army. And not even going that far, Endwalker's despair (mostly) worked because, like Zenos, the WoL (heck the whole crew) couldn't be everywhere at once.

    But suddenly Dawntrail steps in and just has everyone standing there doing nothing and wasting time until the writers are ready to close off the plot because "We're too strong, if we took center stage there wouldn't be any plot" and I simply vehemently disagree. The WoL and the scions are largely reactive forces in this world, and all an enemy needs is a plan that's more than a step or two in by the time the good guys realize.
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  2. #102
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisseyCrowe View Post

    But suddenly Dawntrail steps in and just has everyone standing there doing nothing and wasting time until the writers are ready to close off the plot because "We're too strong, if we took center stage there wouldn't be any plot" and I simply vehemently disagree. The WoL and the scions are largely reactive forces in this world, and all an enemy needs is a plan that's more than a step or two in by the time the good guys realize.
    One of the DT role quest (the ranged one) has a moment where the WoL was about to get assassinated without any godlike powers, I am more surprised they didn't use that in the msq as an example.
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  3. #103
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    Vivian Rysto
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    It was alright. I like Wuk a lot more as a supporting character. Goolol is a good kid. The whole thing in Shaaloani didn't do much for me, though I like Koana. Whatever's going on with SPEEN at the end has me intrigued.
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  4. #104
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    Dastan Twillane
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    The Alexandrians aren't the real threat of this expansion. We don't know what is going to happen and where they are going to take the 7.2 and beyond story. We have speculation, but that's it. Absolutely nobody knows where they are going to take this thing. We just know what we know. Some of us don't like that and that is completely fine. I highly doubt we will be dealing with Sphene again like that. That's over and done with. Like some others have said, they know how to deal with overpowered characters like our WoL. We trounced that tech army like it's nothing because we are so powerful and have so many powerful allies. While they were a threat, it was nothing we couldn't handle. Hence why we beat them inside of the first patch. 7.1 was learning about our new friends and hearing out their story to much more detail where we've only heard fragments of it. These will very much be important later on in the script.

    7.2 is going to be the start of the relic weapon chain and exploration zone. As well as the start of the next arc of this story. If that doesn't really interest you, then I guess that's that. Many people stopped playing at the end of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc. It was indeed a perfect end for many WoLs. You're not wrong for wanting to quit, but some of us do want to continue and see where this goes.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    One of the DT role quest (the ranged one) has a moment where the WoL was about to get assassinated without any godlike powers, I am more surprised they didn't use that in the msq as an example.
    I meant melee, sorry But yea, some of those quests where the WoL gets somehow more involved and actually shows they can still be vulnerable and take a backseat instead of just watching while doing nothing. In the tank one at the end, decided to protect our companion and got sent to sleep which works too
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  6. #106
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    Gullis Hil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I meant melee, sorry But yea, some of those quests where the WoL gets somehow more involved and actually shows they can still be vulnerable and take a backseat instead of just watching while doing nothing. In the tank one at the end, decided to protect our companion and got sent to sleep which works too
    haven't done the melee one, but your comment motivated me to do it lol. I liked that moment in the tank questline too. I feel watching the WOL stumble every now and then is nice, as currently we just feel like a terminator that never are in any real danger
    I loved that part of the shadowbringers msq too, where we are at the risk of turning into a lightwarden.
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  7. #107
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    I wish I had a regulator so I could forget how bad this patch was. The dungeon was the best part of the entire patch but the entire story was trash. They need to hire better writers, because this level of piss poor writing is a waste of time.
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  8. #108
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    Einars Goldclaws
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    The context of MSQ 7.1 is all over the place
    We start with A point then move to B point with silly context and then move to C point with WTF, especially Koana's action in that cutscene and then WHAM BAM POW! left with the cliffhanger last cutscene which we obiviously know what is going on..
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  9. #109
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    One of the DT role quest (the ranged one) has a moment where the WoL was about to get assassinated without any godlike powers, I am more surprised they didn't use that in the msq as an example.
    I do wonder if those who consider the Warrior of light to be some sort of demigod missed the ending of 6.0 where the Warrior of Light almost died giving their all for their star!
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  10. #110
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    Kiwi Kayoubi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingale View Post
    The context of MSQ 7.1 is all over the place
    We start with A point then move to B point with silly context and then move to C point with WTF, especially Koana's action in that cutscene and then WHAM BAM POW! left with the cliffhanger last cutscene which we obiviously know what is going on..
    Wow, sounds like someone doesn't appreciate waiting five months to help an inconsequential Mamool Ja kid check emails to find out about his mom before listening to people talk for two hours about the migratory patterns of some rando mammal before we finally get a "oh, cool, guess we're doing this again instead of writing new content" cliffhanger. Maybe you should appreciate the beauty of what you've been given by our beloved and perfect developers.
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