Thread: So that 7.1 msq...

Originally Posted by GartredZW

Or we could have a story with a nice woman whose treasured bracelet was stolen, and we have to investigate to take it back without anyone getting hurt.
I still hold that Dawntrail should have been a bunch of little Shaloanis with the trials of the rite of succession interspersed within. They do a pretty good job at establishing motivation, stakes, challenges, and rising tension even with such a simple low-stakes story.

This is how I thought the story was going to be. In the 6.55 quests when I told G'raha I had no interest in the rite of succession he said, "Just do your own thing in Tural and maybe you'll help with the trial if it intrigues you." Instead we were thrown right into it with absolutely nothing else coming up until it was done.

The stakes aren't being upped. This is set up. They are telling you a story, not a increasingly difficult series of battles

Originally Posted by Villa101

The stakes aren't being upped. This is set up. They are telling you a story, not a increasingly difficult series of battles

Except we do get another case of "The world is going to end if we don't win." again in the latter half.

Originally Posted by Absurdity

So they needed to invent some new mcguffin so they can go "oh no, the villain has somehow powered up enough to compete with the universe-ending godkiller that is the WoL."

Not aiming this at you, just bouncing off of that part particularly.The thing I find weird about statements like these is that FF14 already knows what to do with overpowered characters: Stormblood's entire premise revolved around attacking the Garleans from opposite angles specifically because Zenos was a one man army. And not even going that far, Endwalker's despair (mostly) worked because, like Zenos, the WoL (heck the whole crew) couldn't be everywhere at once.

But suddenly Dawntrail steps in and just has everyone standing there doing nothing and wasting time until the writers are ready to close off the plot because "We're too strong, if we took center stage there wouldn't be any plot" and I simply vehemently disagree. The WoL and the scions are largely reactive forces in this world, and all an enemy needs is a plan that's more than a step or two in by the time the good guys realize.

7.1 was uninspiring to say the least. Sure compared to most post expac patch content it's probably about average, but this time it's coming off the back of a very substandard expac story.

The stakes don't need to be upped anyways, the WoL is not a god of destruction, every big feat we achive is through the help of many people or with borrowed power. And even without that just because we beat something powerful doesn't mean we have just as much destructive power as whatever we kill. Someone at the level of Gaius would still be a great threat to us, the WoL is still human. (1/14th denser than most thanks to Ardbert, but stil...)

isnt it normal for the patch quests to have 2-3 story locations and letting the player jump between them all the time?