Thancred's new face

[Turethir]

I find fascinating and terrifying how people really picks up that level of detail and claim a whole character is ruined by it.

It is such a small detail, that is not really visible unless you stop in a cutscene with close up on his face to judge! In particular, at the Gif above, I would argue that his face is vastly better now.

So it make sense to change past ones.
But this is such a debate for such a long time and people really picked every bit of detail that was genuine impressive.

Hope you guys get a degree of satisfaction with eventual changes they may make.

For his fans, who have looked at screenshots and watched his cutscenes countless times, it's generally more noticeable.

Imagine each part of him gets changed by a little bit. Bit by bit, there are slight changes to every part of his face - his eyes, nose, lips. If you add all of those changes up, he looks uncanny. He doesn't look like himself anymore. He looks like someone resembling Thancred, but not the Thancred that we love.

It is extremely important to me that we keep the Thancred that we had, the Thancred we loved for years, over changing him. Nobody wanted, nor asked for this, and we have had no opportunity to input on the changes.

Thank you for the well-wishes. I hope that we eventually see change and that our requests are heeded.

[ArtemisXIV]

When it was announced there were changes being made in 7.1, I held out hope that they'd fix Thancred's face. Instead, they tripled down and made him look all sorts of wrong across the board. Give us Thancred back, please! The nose and the lips, in particular, are just *off*.

[lolnah]

I think he looks better...I prefer his narrower eyes.

[nekh]

I'm also sorely disappointed with the changes. From certain angles, the changes are subtle enough that it's almost the same guy but there's a little something off. From others, it's very blatantly not the same guy. His jawline and lips have been changed, but for me the biggest offender is his nose. Many of the other changes could to some extent be explained away by the updated shaders casting shadows differently, but the bridge of his nose has a completely new shape and it's way narrower as a whole. They also made him a whole shade lighter for the HVW/STB model, which is... well. Blatantly unnecessary. I'm not sure that shaders can explain that.

With people complaining about this across both EN and JP forums you would hope that Square would be taking it to heart.

The need for an update is understandable especially with such a large graphics overhaul, but if you're working with a character that already had unique, custom sculpted parts, they I think it's only natural that you should attempt to recreate those in the updated model to the best of your abilities. Especially if it's the same face that character has had for over 10 years. Echoing what others have said, it's not that there is one singular change that has "ruined" Thancred, but more that all of his components have been changed enough that they do not add up to the same whole anymore.

Honestly, it's a little hard to look at him now. I'm glad that the hair and blindfold on his HVW/STB model obscure enough of his face that half of the time I can pretend it's still the face I'm imagining under there. lol

[RainStormwalker]

They made his lips too thin, made him paler, messed up his jaw, removed the signature dark under his eyes, made his skin splotchy... it's hard to look at. Maybe they want to say he gets more rest after heavensward but they took the dark under eyes off his old faces too.

He's always been my first favorite and he deserves as much love as the other scions got. SE please have a look again and edit him.

[Turethir]

Here are some comparisons using sliders. It's quite a good way to compare the new and original faces easily (and yes, I do feel very sad when I look at these!)

https://imgsli.com/MzE5NTIw

https://imgsli.com/MzE5NTI0

[Boblawblah]

I find fascinating and terrifying how people really picks up that level of detail and claim a whole character is ruined by it.

It is such a small detail, that is not really visible unless you stop in a cutscene with close up on his face to judge! In particular, at the Gif above, I would argue that his face is vastly better now.

So it make sense to change past ones.
But this is such a debate for such a long time and people really picked every bit of detail that was genuine impressive.

Hope you guys get a degree of satisfaction with eventual changes they may make.

For me, he looks like a player cosplaying as Thancred. Yea, they're 'small' details, but it's amazing how different he looks to me.

[Rueby]

Here are some comparisons using sliders. It's quite a good way to compare the new and original faces easily (and yes, I do feel very sad when I look at these!)

https://imgsli.com/MzE5NTIw

https://imgsli.com/MzE5NTI0

This is genuinely physically painful to look at....I really want to make the after disappear from existence.
Not my Thancred.

[Zofian]

Here are some good comparisons (thank you to MicaelaWaters_T on Twitter). Most of it is the lips, but the nose has also been significantly changed.

Please bring back his old model! He looked fine as he was!

These shots really nail it, it just isn't even him anymore. Looks like his name should be Desmond or something

[Parisanparisan]

Thancred’s unique features and charm points have completely disappeared, and now his face looks like something a player could create using the character creator.

If I come across any other comparison images besides the ones I posted on the Japanese forums, I’ll share them here. (I’ve been too scared to look closely at the new version of Thancred, so I haven’t gone back to check the inn’s Unending Journey much…)

If anyone has comparison images (of the same scenes from the previous version, from ARR to Endwalker patch 6.58), I’d greatly appreciate it if you could share them! Additionally, it’s not just the differences in features; the lighting in many cases has also become quite odd compared to before. If you have any images highlighting that, please share them as well!

黄金のレガシー開始おめでとうございます！そしていつもありがとうございます！

サンクレッドが好きすぎてサンクレッドを日々研究している者です。
今回のグラフィックスアップデートにより、サンクレッドが別人のように顔が変わってしまったことが個人的に非常に気になり、そのことでなかなかメインストーリーを進められずにいたので今回こちらに初投稿いたしました。サンクレッドはミッドランダー男性ですので、ここで他の方々がミドラン男性について要望されていることと共通する部分もあります。
以下に、比較しやすいよう漆黒・暁月の同じムービーシーンを旧・新と並べて添付いたします。
左が6.58までの旧グラのサンクレッドで、右が宿屋で見た7.0でアップデートされたサンクレッドになります。