Thancred's new face

[Iscah]

Whats even better, Thancred still has his old face(the better face) in MSQ roulette Praetorium when he's Lahabrea.

Likewise for a certain Miqo'te's appearance in Shadowbringers... His other model (and player-characters using the same face) have been altered and the eyes are changed a lot, but there he is still with his old eye shape and long eyelashes looking perfectly fine and functional.

Edited to be clearer (but spoilery):

The Exarch's face still has its old shape and looks fine. His younger self, G'raha Tia, has been altered – the eyelid is lower and thick makeup added to disguise the change.

I made a longer post in the megathread while I will aim to dig up and link here later.

[SongOfTheWind]

It was announced at some point that earlier expansions/npcs will be “upgraded” in later patches. So we can enjoy his old self in the meantime. It’s all going to be gone eventually.

[Turethir]

After the Lodestone post I am a little concerned that NPCs weren't mentioned, so I'd like to keep this thread live with examples.

Here's a GIF I made which shows the difference between the chin, lips and nose area of 6.55 Thancred and 7.0 Thancred:


(I didn't label this, but the 6.55 face is where the Archon marks are closer together on the neck)

I think by isolating this area it's quite clear to see:

• The nose has been narrowed - Thancred's 6.55 nose was wider and fuller than Midlander 1's
• The lips are hugely changed - they were "fuller" before, with a poutier look and a larger upper lip, again unique from Midlander 1
• The philtrum is MUCH more pronounced on the 7.0 version
• The chin shape has changed

I won't give up on Thancred that easily and I hope that if we keep banding together we can get this noticed by the devs!

[LittleArrow]

Classic allergic reaction puffy face. My viera female face 3 suffered from this too. She had a sharp jawline with cute puffy high cheek bones that turned into a swollen jaw and giant full puffy cheeks. She essentially looks like she had dental surgery and was stung by bees. It's the most common problem I've seen of the new face pictures, even the ones people say they don't see a difference, I do... and looks terrible. I hope they fix it, but I don't have hope.

[Iscah]

Interesting from the gif, I can see the same issues I've been noticing on my female Midlander. Besides the main talked-about ones like the philtrum, there's also the nose being pulled downwards and the sides of the nostrils inwards, and the shadow between the bottom lip and chin fades away to a smaller semicircle directly below the lip instead of the larger bowtie or down-pointed crescent shape it had before that defined the shape of the chin.

[Parisanparisan]

After the Lodestone post I am a little concerned that NPCs weren't mentioned, so I'd like to keep this thread live with examples.

Here's a GIF I made which shows the difference between the chin, lips and nose area of 6.55 Thancred and 7.0 Thancred:


(I didn't label this, but the 6.55 face is where the Archon marks are closer together on the neck)

I think by isolating this area it's quite clear to see:

• The nose has been narrowed - Thancred's 6.55 nose was wider and fuller than Midlander 1's
• The lips are hugely changed - they were "fuller" before, with a poutier look and a larger upper lip, again unique from Midlander 1
• The philtrum is MUCH more pronounced on the 7.0 version
• The chin shape has changed

I won't give up on Thancred that easily and I hope that if we keep banding together we can get this noticed by the devs!

Thank you for always posting GIF! It's really easy to see the difference when you stack them...

I don't want to give up either. Is it a lower priority because there are fewer requests for NPC than for player characters?

I wrote a lot of requests about Thancred on Japanese forums. (Many people agreed and supported us.)
Also, I have been speaking on social media, but I was disappointed that there was no news regarding NPC.
So, I posted again after the announcement...it's hard to accept that there is no news about NPC.
(there are several other people who have posted after the announcement)↓

「今回は、プレイヤーキャラクター」のグラフィックについてのお知らせということですが
以下の引用のお二人のご質問・要望・想いに全面的に同意します。
私も疑問に思ったことなので再度、投稿させていただきます。

※引用失礼致します。

プレイヤーキャラクターの調整/修正が最優先なのはもちろん理解しているのですが、
やはり個人的に一番気になっているサンクレッドに関する要望をもう一度だけ出させてください。
正直、今となっては自機以上に顔の変化が受け入れがたい状態です。（自機に関しては、7.1での調整を待ちたいと思います）



一日経って改めてスレを読んでいたのですが、こちらの比較を見るとやはり軽微では済まされない変化をしてしまっているように思います。（引用失礼いたします）
引用元や私の過去のフィードバックにもあるとおり、サンクレッドは顔のほとんどが独自パーツで構成されています。
いずれは元の印象に近づくよう修正をお願いしたいところですが、今回は吉田Pのコメントにあった修正点で気がかりな点をひとつ挙げさせてください。
彼の人相を大きく変えている原因のひとつである人中に7.1で手が入るとのことですが、これはサンクレッドも該当するのでしょうか？
6.xまでは大半が独自パーツでしたが、7.0以降は以前に比べてPCの汎用フェイスパーツに近寄ったような印象があります。
しかしながらキャラクリで再現しようとすると、微妙に違う顔になっているように思います。
となれば現在も（調整された）独自パーツを使用していることになるのですが、
そうするとミッドランダー男性1顔の人中に調整が入っても、サンクレッドには反映されないということになります。
他のNPC（ヤ・シュトラの口角など）は種族ごとの汎用パーツに手が入れば反映されることになるので、調整に期待が持てるのですが…
もし上記の通り、独自パーツ使用で反映されないのであれば、どうかサンクレッドの人中も目立たなくなるよう（元の印象に近づくよう）な修正をお願いしたいです。
本当に個人的な想いにはなってしまうのですが、私にとって暁の面々はとても大事な仲間です。
自機と共に歩み、自機を支え、苦楽を共にしてくれた人たちです。そんな仲間たちの顔（印象）が変わってしまったことを、とても悲しく、寂しく思います。
その中でもサンクレッドが特に別人級に変わってしまったので、こうしてフィードバックを出しています。

また、これらと同じ理由でアルフィノ、アリゼーの目にハイライトが入りにくくなった現象がどうなるかも気になっています。
彼らに至ってはすべて独自パーツで構成されているので、同様に目のハイライトの入り方に調整が入ったとき、反映されるかが気がかりです。

これらに関しても、再度検討をして頂けますと幸いです。よろしくお願いいたします。

運営の皆様へ、キャラクターのグラフィックアップデートについてのお知らせありがとうございます。
私が個人的に気になっていた点についてパッチ7.1ぐらいには戻るかもしれないという望みが出てきたので少し希望が持てました。


今回のお知らせを拝見して少し疑問に思ったことがあったのですが、
NPCの特殊フェイスタイプであるサンクレッドは今回のアップデートでかなり印象が変わってしまったと感じています。
（ぷっくりした唇が平らになってしまった、眉毛の下の黒い線が薄くなっている、眉毛が細くなっている、目頭当たりのアイラインが無くなっているなど）

こちらについては対応されるかどうか書かれていなかったので今後どうなるかわからず不安です。
サンクレッドもどうか印象が戻るように対応されることを願っています。


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[StormChase]

Thank you for always posting GIF! It's really easy to see the difference when you stack them...

I don't want to give up either. Is it a lower priority because there are fewer requests for NPC than for player characters?

I wrote a lot of requests about Thancred on Japanese forums. (Many people agreed and supported us.)
Also, I have been speaking on social media, but I was disappointed that there was no news regarding NPC.
So, I posted again after the announcement...it's hard to accept that there is no news about NPC.
(there are several other people who have posted after the announcement)↓

Did they yassify Thancred...?

[Zakuyia]

Yeah im not seeing it....these post tend to confuse me with that. PLEASE show a comparison between the two.

[Doopliss]

Yeah im not seeing it....these post tend to confuse me with that. PLEASE show a comparison between the two.

I wanted to stick to silently upvoting this thread and comments but I'm really confused about your confusion. There's a comparison two posts above you. There's a ton of comparisons throughout the thread too...?

[qjelly]

I agree! It really seems like they changed most of what, in my opinion, made Thancred's appearance so recognizable. Things like the shape of his lips and chin, the definition in his eyebrows, and the width of his nose. I really really hope this gets fixed someday </3