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    Voidmage's Avatar
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Twintania
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    Blue Mage Lv 47
    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    So Ultimates aside, is there a reason you wouldn't like to try Unreals or Extremes? I agree that there should be more variety of content, and I'm hoping a new Bozja like zone could intersect the Hardcore and Casual group of players into something fun, but since you have 4 months of "nothing to do", wouldn't it be nice to try them?

    Like I swear if you go into a PF on a fresh or blind party no one will get angry at you for messing up.
    I did up to Savage before and nowadays only do Ex fights.

    I only speak for me but maybe others also see it like that.
    The problem I got with Savage (and Ex if it wasn’t just faster and more forgiving) is that there isn’t really much “skill” involved. It’s just know where to stand and keep the gcd rolling.
    No positioning the boss as the tank mostly, no usage of any other things like “sleep” for mobs and so on. Just know the mechanics to a T.
    I honestly stopped having fun in Savage.

    Add to that every strategy tilting towards melee players even in EW (very annoying on BLM sometimes) and unnecessary body checks even in Ex and it will be annoying.

    What I’m trying to say is that I think it’s not just the difficulty letting casuals hesitate with Ex but also the design itself.
    Not everyone wants to look up a guide. Many casuals actually like to do dungeons blind for example.
    The modern raiding scene though is almost completely “follow guide to a T”. Blind prog is usually only found at the very beginning.
    Many PF groups also often have extremely high ilvl requirements just so they don’t have to waste any time.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I did up to Savage before and nowadays only do Ex fights.

    I only speak for me but maybe others also see it like that.
    The problem I got with Savage (and Ex if it wasn’t just faster and more forgiving) is that there isn’t really much “skill” involved. It’s just know where to stand and keep the gcd rolling.
    No positioning the boss as the tank mostly, no usage of any other things like “sleep” for mobs and so on. Just know the mechanics to a T.
    I honestly stopped having fun in Savage.

    Add to that every strategy tilting towards melee players even in EW (very annoying on BLM sometimes) and unnecessary body checks even in Ex and it will be annoying.

    What I’m trying to say is that I think it’s not just the difficulty letting casuals hesitate with Ex but also the design itself.
    Not everyone wants to look up a guide. Many casuals actually like to do dungeons blind for example.
    The modern raiding scene though is almost completely “follow guide to a T”. Blind prog is usually only found at the very beginning.
    Many PF groups also often have extremely high ilvl requirements just so they don’t have to waste any time.
    To be fair even blind prog to me isn't fun in current models. It's all about figuring out the DDR patterns. It's not like if it was figuring how the boss gets damage stacks when something happens, or how to juggle resources or different enemies with different plates going and making choices about it. It's just figuring out a jigsaw puzzle where the pieces are all donut, point blank, stack, spread, partners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    No matter how many topics and how much feedback is given, devs/ corporations understand only one language, money. As long as there are enough people that fuel them and that are content with the changes there will be no incentive to change the formula.
    I honestly wish I could vote with my wallet on the menu, you know? Pick up the content I like, and give the middle finger to the content I don't by not paying for it. That way the game would probably cost me like thrice less and the "corporation" as you say would understand what I hate with my money, but alas, the only thing I can do is whine on those forums. Trust me, I'd like nothing more than to waste less of my time with more efficient wallet solutions.
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    Last edited by Valence; 11-04-2024 at 11:24 PM.