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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    Now they just need to make the people that own multiple plots to surrender them to make it even with everyone, no grandfathered nonsense.

    Also add a chest similar to the FC chest with the same amount of space to have your alts share things.
    Yeah that sucks, but im sure many of those stopped playing by now... the wards feel so empty, there always used to be some ppl but nowadays, even large FCs dont have ppl being there..

    So many houses now went to bots or one man FCs... i got several barren houses next to mine, you just know there are bots, there are 0 items placed... and no ppl around EVER.



    4. Put a minimal item placement count into act.
    Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...

    IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yeah that sucks, but im sure many of those stopped playing by now... the wards feel so empty, there always used to be some ppl but nowadays, even large FCs dont have ppl being there..

    So many houses now went to bots or one man FCs... i got several barren houses next to mine, you just know there are bots, there are 0 items placed... and no ppl around EVER.
    Yeah, it was dumb to allow the ownership of up to 8 FC plots per world, it should have been the same limit as personal housing. This would get rid of many of those barren wards and allow more people to move in. I'm fortunate that my neighbors around my homes in Exodus and Seraph are decorated and I see them often too, that was something I was dreading when Seraph went live two years ago almost but thankfully my neighbors decorated their homes. I also invite my friends often to hangout with me at my homes so that they actually get used more than just looking pretty and such. For the FC's that have multiple people, then they would be forced to transfer ownership to someone else and if that other person already owns their own FC and personal plot, then it gets auto demolished.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...

    IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....
    Maybe add a feature for a set amount of gil to auto decorate their yards for the people that don't decorate or are not good at it. Have tiers maybe, so say one cost 100k gil, it puts out some basic things and such that looks nice and the more expensive tiers could have more expensive and unique furnishings.
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    Last edited by Rinoa_353; 10-19-2024 at 07:26 PM.
    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

    Mihgo Manor - Minaa's personal mansion located in Seraph Shiro W14 P60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...
    Hence why I said It wouldn't fix everything but it would def stop people from just buying and leaving it there, give them some sort of incentive to do 'something' with it all as there is literally 0 reason to do Anything at all currently.
    It helps push people a little bit into actually making something as in a lot of cases, people simply don't do cause they don't start.

    IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....
    Honestly yeah I wouldn't mind so much if people did some nice designs, I'm sure the same goes for many others but so many of them are just.. void. Like I understand FC ones being void and people using it for subs, but the player ones don't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosanneFaerwing View Post
    Hence why I said It wouldn't fix everything but it would def stop people from just buying and leaving it there, give them some sort of incentive to do 'something' with it all as there is literally 0 reason to do Anything at all currently.
    It helps push people a little bit into actually making something as in a lot of cases, people simply don't do cause they don't start.



    Honestly yeah I wouldn't mind so much if people did some nice designs, I'm sure the same goes for many others but so many of them are just.. void. Like I understand FC ones being void and people using it for subs, but the player ones don't make sense.
    I do have a solo FC but unlike the empty ones, mine is nicely decorated and my alts share it, I can post some pictures if you wish to see them. The garden look really pretty and is nearly as well decorated as my personal homes since I need gil to buy the more expensive furnishings to upgrade and have them ready for hopefully yards also getting a limit increase in 7.2 or 7.3.
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    Last edited by Rinoa_353; 10-19-2024 at 07:35 PM.
    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

    Mihgo Manor - Minaa's personal mansion located in Seraph Shiro W14 P60

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    This is why its hard to get a final idea on what should be done but it was an idea atleast, not an actual suggestion I would say in the long run it would have issues as you gave a good example of how it can still be done right after all

    I still do stand by the rest of what I said in the first post (and happy to brainstorm with others changes and such).
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    Yeah the housing in this game continues to be a joke, but SE, and the scum that take advantage of it, aren't going to care.

    There's a single ward in the Goblet that is quite literally full of houses owned by a single person. All of them are owned by shell-FC with a single level 2 member. All of them created in 2024. All by the obviously same person.

    Just look at the subdivision for Ward 25 on Leviathan.

    It's a joke so blatantly disgusting, I'm sure I'm not the only one that's sick of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    So many houses now went to bots or one man FCs... i got several barren houses next to mine, you just know there are bots, there are 0 items placed... and no ppl around EVER.
    Regarding this, I feel there should be a minimal requirement for FCs to exist, and it cannot be a FC full of your alts or something, like let be that there has to be a minimal player number specifically or something cause too many 1 person FCs around just owning blanks isn't right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosanneFaerwing View Post
    Regarding this, I feel there should be a minimal requirement for FCs to exist, and it cannot be a FC full of your alts or something, like let be that there has to be a minimal player number specifically or something cause too many 1 person FCs around just owning blanks isn't right.
    Ever since Housing opens to Personal, the ideas from players in regard to acquisition never fails to make situation from ok to bad and bad to worst.
    Do you really thinks SE never thought of that?
    How difficult is it to simply asking your friends to make an alt to a solo FC to bypass that laughable requirement?
    I also can simply lock the entrance and just decorate the garden with few pieces of items and claiming i am a minimalist
    What are you going to do about that?
    How difficult is it to have two active subscripted accounts?
    Let's be real, right now if I go to McDonald for a simple meal it cost more than FF14's monthly subscription
    That makes all your "ideas" pointless isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Ever since Housing opens to Personal, the ideas from players in regard to acquisition never fails to make situation from ok to bad and bad to worst.
    Do you really thinks SE never thought of that?
    How difficult is it to simply asking your friends to make an alt to a solo FC to bypass that laughable requirement?
    I also can simply lock the entrance and just decorate the garden with few pieces of items and claiming i am a minimalist
    What are you going to do about that?
    How difficult is it to have two active subscripted accounts?
    Let's be real, right now if I go to McDonald for a simple meal it cost higher than FF14's monthly subscription
    That makes all your "ideas" pointless isn't it?
    Not really no as these ideas are a suggestion, and as I said I'm happy to brainstorm and talk about things.
    There is no 100% way to stop this unless they really knuckled down and added too many restrictions completely but then that would make the game rather tedious and as another mentioned which they should look into, doing something like that would defiantly make it not alt-friendly at all.

    Most likely SE has thourght about it, but we wouldn't know would we
    For the FC part, that came to mind instantly; never said there wouldn't be work-arounds but making it more of an obstacle stops the majority from abusing as simply.
    And true on the design, no issues at all there to be fair, I don't think thats the focus here.

    If you have ideas or something please do share, but as it stands I still feel this would be a good way to help prevent and/or delay people from abusing the system as much as they currently are.
    You saying its fine for someone to own an entire ward?
    You saying its fine for someone to mass make FCs to do the same?
    If not then why not try and help think of ways around this which would benefit all; and that's exactly what I'm trying to do here.

    I said this wouldn't appeal to everyone, but that wasn't my goal.
    My goal is to try and suggest and discuss a solution to make it more fair than it is now.
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