Limit Housing to help solve some potential issues?

[RosanneFaerwing]

I've been brainstorming this for quite some time, talking it through with various people in communities and friends alike and I feel this is something most I have talked to have agreed that, though it would change things for some people, it would be a high improvement when it comes to diversity, use & congestion of housing.

1. Having a limit per world server on Personal housing to one per account, per server.

This will make a few people hate me for this for sure as a suggestion but this would stop people from multi-plot owning for either void use, or 'selling' use which we see quite a lot.

This will also still allow people to have a personal home which they can use for friends and alts as need without having any issues.

Ofc, Alt characters can still use the house and are automatically added to the ownership roster for the house (allowing full housing control with the exception of selling the house, only the character which bought it can do that.)

2. Along with the previous, put a housing cooldown.

To explain, you should still be allowed to bid on other houses either for moving or upgrading from one to another, but once this is successful, put a cooldown on how long you can do this again as to not over-burden the market constantly (maybe a week).

When successful, put the items which were in the house either transferred over if it was in storage, or have it all go to a temp storage which will need to be picked up from a NPC (and if you don't pick it up ofc its lost eventually).

3. Having a limit per world server on FC Ownership to one per account.

Now this one is a tricky one but this would help stop people from mass making FCs to simply 'bid' for everything themselves; However, alt/other characters can JOIN other FCs they just simply cannot make one themselves.

This again would help stop the spam of fake/shell FCs just for this purpose by a large amount.

Apartments & House Rooms stay the same with one exception which follows for all locations:

4. Put a minimal item placement count into act.

This gives people a push to use the rooms / houses for its intended purpose of some sort instead of becoming shell houses only used for the sub-system alone.
Putting a requirement of placing 15 items for small, 30 for medium and 45 for large (with some sort of warning) would assist with stopping void-houses, which when void give the impression of either it's either a buy & not use / 'looking to sell' house / Sub-Only house.

Sub use isn't the issue, but the idea of the house is to use it after all so doing the bare minimal should be promoted/giving incentive.

TLDR: 1 FC per World Server; Alts can still join FCs just not make one, 1 Personal House per World Server, Minimal Items placed requirement with deadline.

This won't fix all the problems but it would highly mitigate the congestion and help put it into the hands of those who actually WANT to do something with the houses.
The goal in mind for all of this is a more fair share for all.

I don't feel like this will get seen much but I still wished to say my part on the matter.
If you have any ideas to add to this please reply.
These systems won't appeal to some who do use the houses properly on multi-alts and such but this would be one of the best ways to fix the issue.

[Rinoa_353]

I agree that like personal housing, FC plots should also be limited to just one per world too. I hate seeing my Ward 4 LB full of shell and undecorated FC's used for submarine farming in Seraph. This may not be a popular opinion but I think they should force anyone that has multiple plots in the same world to have to surrender and choose the personal and single FC plot they wish to keep and then be refunded the cost of the plots they surrendered. Give them maybe 45 days, same as auto demo timer to choose which personal and single FC plot they want to keep. If they don't choose, then the plots will be chosen randomly. Then allow alts to share the personal plots and that would also help solve the problem of personal housing not being shared.

[RosanneFaerwing]

1 FC and 1 Personal.

That's exactly where I am going with this

[RosanneFaerwing]

The allow alts to share the personal plots and that would also help solve the problem of personal housing not being shared.

This part specifically is what should be pushed for, with one personal owned on a character, and the alts using that house as need too.

Apartments & House rooms wouldn't need changing really, just the placement rule to stop void/blank rooms constantly (auto refund if you simply don't place the required amount within a week)

[Rinoa_353]

Now they just need to make the people that own multiple plots to surrender them to make it even with everyone, no grandfathered nonsense.

Also add a chest similar to the FC chest with the same amount of space to have your alts share things.

[Kuroka]

Now they just need to make the people that own multiple plots to surrender them to make it even with everyone, no grandfathered nonsense.

Also add a chest similar to the FC chest with the same amount of space to have your alts share things.

Yeah that sucks, but im sure many of those stopped playing by now... the wards feel so empty, there always used to be some ppl but nowadays, even large FCs dont have ppl being there..

So many houses now went to bots or one man FCs... i got several barren houses next to mine, you just know there are bots, there are 0 items placed... and no ppl around EVER.

4. Put a minimal item placement count into act.

Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...

IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....

[Rinoa_353]

Yeah that sucks, but im sure many of those stopped playing by now... the wards feel so empty, there always used to be some ppl but nowadays, even large FCs dont have ppl being there..

So many houses now went to bots or one man FCs... i got several barren houses next to mine, you just know there are bots, there are 0 items placed... and no ppl around EVER.

Yeah, it was dumb to allow the ownership of up to 8 FC plots per world, it should have been the same limit as personal housing. This would get rid of many of those barren wards and allow more people to move in. I'm fortunate that my neighbors around my homes in Exodus and Seraph are decorated and I see them often too, that was something I was dreading when Seraph went live two years ago almost but thankfully my neighbors decorated their homes. I also invite my friends often to hangout with me at my homes so that they actually get used more than just looking pretty and such. For the FC's that have multiple people, then they would be forced to transfer ownership to someone else and if that other person already owns their own FC and personal plot, then it gets auto demolished.

Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...

IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....

Maybe add a feature for a set amount of gil to auto decorate their yards for the people that don't decorate or are not good at it. Have tiers maybe, so say one cost 100k gil, it puts out some basic things and such that looks nice and the more expensive tiers could have more expensive and unique furnishings.

[RosanneFaerwing]

Yes, but the result would be ppl grabbing the cheapest stuff from NPC/MB and just cram it somewhere to fulfill that criteria...

Hence why I said It wouldn't fix everything but it would def stop people from just buying and leaving it there, give them some sort of incentive to do 'something' with it all as there is literally 0 reason to do Anything at all currently.
It helps push people a little bit into actually making something as in a lot of cases, people simply don't do cause they don't start.

IF at least the garden were pretty but some barely put in the teleport and mailbox....

Honestly yeah I wouldn't mind so much if people did some nice designs, I'm sure the same goes for many others but so many of them are just.. void. Like I understand FC ones being void and people using it for subs, but the player ones don't make sense.

[Rinoa_353]

Hence why I said It wouldn't fix everything but it would def stop people from just buying and leaving it there, give them some sort of incentive to do 'something' with it all as there is literally 0 reason to do Anything at all currently.
It helps push people a little bit into actually making something as in a lot of cases, people simply don't do cause they don't start.



Honestly yeah I wouldn't mind so much if people did some nice designs, I'm sure the same goes for many others but so many of them are just.. void. Like I understand FC ones being void and people using it for subs, but the player ones don't make sense.

I do have a solo FC but unlike the empty ones, mine is nicely decorated and my alts share it, I can post some pictures if you wish to see them. The garden look really pretty and is nearly as well decorated as my personal homes since I need gil to buy the more expensive furnishings to upgrade and have them ready for hopefully yards also getting a limit increase in 7.2 or 7.3.

[RosanneFaerwing]

This is why its hard to get a final idea on what should be done but it was an idea atleast, not an actual suggestion I would say in the long run it would have issues as you gave a good example of how it can still be done right after all

I still do stand by the rest of what I said in the first post (and happy to brainstorm with others changes and such).