Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Turethir]

I want to thank everyone who managed to get to the end of this very long post

Thank you so much Argantaelle As a huge Thancred fan (he's my favourite character) I felt genuinely touched by your words! As Khryseis_Astra said, there's so many little things that have been changed about him that he looks like a different person. Still sort of recognisable as the same character, but off, almost like an uncanny version of him, a Ship of Theseus in a way. As soon as I see a picture of the old Thancred, I can immediately see the difference.

For people who might not care as much for Thancred, it might not be a huge deal, but when you love a character this much it really hurts

I can only desperately hope that they revert him to his SHB appearance and rig the model up for 7.0. I know it can be done, and I'll keep fighting for him as I know it means a lot to me and a lot of other people.

[Hatsuoki]

Thank you so much Argantaelle As a huge Thancred fan (he's my favourite character) I felt genuinely touched by your words! As Khryseis_Astra said, there's so many little things that have been changed about him that he looks like a different person. Still sort of recognisable as the same character, but off, almost like an uncanny version of him, a Ship of Theseus in a way. As soon as I see a picture of the old Thancred, I can immediately see the difference.

For people who might not care as much for Thancred, it might not be a huge deal, but when you love a character this much it really hurts

I can only desperately hope that they revert him to his SHB appearance and rig the model up for 7.0. I know it can be done, and I'll keep fighting for him as I know it means a lot to me and a lot of other people.

I've also talked about the same thing here for Hancock and much more often in private since he's not as popular but it's like all personality and background was wiped away. He no longer has the thin, pursed lips with a slight, cruel expression, doesn't have dark under eye circles so he doesn't look as tired, and he's slightly more bulky, as if he wasn't malnourished as a child. Speaking generally though, characters were more likely to have been designed with these physical characteristics to match their personalities and backgrounds and not designed with the intent of the "original data" that they claim to be more accurate. Regardless of how accurate the models now match the original data, I just don't think that's what the character designers were working off of.

[Doopliss]

Speaking generally though, characters were more likely to have been designed with these physical characteristics to match their personalities and backgrounds and not designed with the intent of the "original data" that they claim to be more accurate. Regardless of how accurate the models now match the original data, I just don't think that's what the character designers were working off of.

God, dude, I know we don't have "proof" one way or another, but...you're definitely right. It just doesn't make sense otherwise.

They 100% did not design any characters with the intent of the "original data" they reference in the PR-ridden lodestone response. As any good character designer would do, they used and made the best out of the limitations and tools they were given. Their eyes are no different from ours, and they definitely weren't designing characters with the thoughts of them having a different impression in the future. That would just be...insane? And bad character designing. I just can't, in good faith, believe anyone who would think otherwise.

There's no way that Cirina, with her gentle, airy and sometimes surprising disposition was meant to look so...tired and plastic in comparison to her old, more girlish and slightly less conventional-looking model. Sadu, the fierce, battle-loving Dotharl had her face intentionally made up of all of the sharpest feature options. You're telling me they're actually meant to be this much softer and rounded-out?

I also get sad seeing Margrat--the last custom delivery NPC from Endwalker--now with her sharp, longer and more mature features practically removed. It fit her erratic, nerdy busybody personality super well...and her custom delivery portrait still has the old model. It's weirdly depressing to look at. Now her features are also all rounded out, and a little more...droopy-looking. She lacks the emotion she once had.