FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

[Rabblerabble]

I'm sorry, what in the word salad does Marxism have to do with this?

A tactic they love employing.. Attack any dissenting opinion, deflect any criticism, single people out and attack relentlessly. Keep people divided and just straight up lie about anything and everything. With abandon.
They will never admit any guilt, or any fault. Many of the online publications are actually staffed by people openly stating they are Marxists. It's the cool grift it seems these days.








These are the types of people that go and declare that reviews that don't align with their standards are "review bombs". Or that people that don't like something and post a negative review are oh, a vocal minority, all the while demanding to the places that host these reviews to remove the review, or face some kind of financial back lash.

https://youtube.com/shorts/wv8ckDqlk...3LAE8G-HgtuJM9

This is another example, threaten whoever they are talking to with some financial consequence.

Now I have no issue with any of the politics involved in the expansion of the game, I have stated before I have no care either way for Wuk Lamat, or the v.a. , rather I have disliked the narrative, writing and characters in the game for quite a while. I enjoy XIV. Honestly, it is pretty fun in my opinion. The story and characters tho are 0% of what I enjoy about the game.

All I want to know is where can someone post a review without being labelled as a vocal minority or a review bomber?

I hope this "word salad" helps you understand why I chose the words I chose Teah_Kaye.

[gllt]

Actually I just think your average person is really emotionally sensitive and defensive of things they like because of consumer culture so they're prone to playing defense for large corporations because an attack on the thing they like is perceived as a direct attack on themselves

Among us among us

I think caring about reviews scores is dumb though like thinking the stock market or horoscopes are real

[Swordsman]

Score update: Steam score dropped and Metacritic User Score dropped. Added link to new /r/ffxivdiscussion thread: "Dawntrail has reached "Mostly Negative" reviews on Steam."

[Swordsman]

Score update: Metacritic User Score dropped by 1 point, Steam reviews in last 30 days rose by 1 point. I wonder if Metacritic user score will dip below 6.0.

[Striker44]

Score update: Metacritic User Score dropped by 1 point, Steam reviews in last 30 days rose by 1 point. I wonder if Metacritic user score will dip below 6.0.

And to go along with that update - the player population numbers show nobody really cares about those scores or reviews, as DT is maintaining practically the exact same retention % as every other expansion, coupled with one of the highest active playerbase numbers (topped only by the release month of DT itself and that brief "WoW Exodus" spike a few years back).

[Tunda]

Score update: Metacritic User Score dropped by 1 point, Steam reviews in last 30 days rose by 1 point. I wonder if Metacritic user score will dip below 6.0.

but why????

the game is good no? we got another finisher for summoner.. things can't be this bad

[lolnotacat]

Because peoples don't stop playing MMORPG on a whim (for most).

This. I recommend people look up a term called the "trust thermocline". It's not a perfect analogy (though there never is), but it's a pretty accurate representation of what happens, particularly in gaming. At a previous game company I worked at, it played out like that exactly. The development management teams kept pushing the players further and further until they finally snapped and left in droves. Players are sticky and won't leave on a whim, particularly if there are other things keeping them around. I for one am sticking around because I have a house and I'm waiting to see what happens with 7.1. Others will stay out of sunk cost, because they have friends still playing, or they have far higher tolerances. But at some point a company will hit a point where their customers lose faith in them and they will go elsewhere en masse.

[KageTokage]

This. I recommend people look up a term called the "trust thermocline". It's not a perfect analogy (though there never is), but it's a pretty accurate representation of what happens, particularly in gaming. At a previous game company I worked at, it played out like that exactly. The development management teams kept pushing the players further and further until they finally snapped and left in droves. Players are sticky and won't leave on a whim, particularly if there are other things keeping them around. I for one am sticking around because I have a house and I'm waiting to see what happens with 7.1. Others will stay out of sunk cost, because they have friends still playing, or they have far higher tolerances. But at some point a company will hit a point where their customers lose faith in them and they will go elsewhere en masse.

WoW was a prime example of this because people started complaining about system/grind bloat as far as back as in MoP, but it only really came to a head with Shadowlands where they finally got grouchy enough/started quitting to an extent that the devs couldn't ignore it anymore.

XIV still seems rather early on in that process and the complaints are more about general boredom due to lack of content and innovation, so it's kind of having the opposite issue. "Just play other games" really isn't the kind of mentality any subscription/live service model should be trying to encourage when it comes to finanicial success, though...

[WaxSw]

I wonder how close we are to the point of no return in that trust thermocline since there are already some warning signs.
DT seems to be the lowest rated XIV product since 1.0, the job reception so far is mixed to negative, the promises haven't been met so far, msq is divisive at best, and negativity towards the game is more common than it has been in the last years

[Eyrilona]

I wonder how close we are to the point of no return in that trust thermocline since there are already some warning signs.
DT seems to be the lowest rated XIV product since 1.0, the job reception so far is mixed to negative, the promises haven't been met so far, msq is divisive at best, contand negativity towards the game is more common than it has been in the last years

Probably not so far that they can't swing it around if they start releasing quality again, because people have short memories, but damage has been done to the core of the sense of identity of both the player character and those nearest them, so it will not be easy to make us "like" characters (including our own) again after seeing them behave in ways that made them look really bad.