FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

[Lorika]

Lyse now looks preferable by comparison as well.

I never disliked Lyse. She was a bit annoying, but she evolved through the story, being made aware of her shortcomings and trying to fix them.

[Swordsman]

Oooh, so my favorite expansion Stormblood really isn't as bad as the whiners say.

Controversial opinion - I liked Stormblood more than EW.

I never disliked Lyse. She was a bit annoying, but she evolved through the story, being made aware of her shortcomings and trying to fix them.

Agreed. She had her annoying moments and all but I didn't find her dislikable, and she had significant character development throughout the MSQ.

[Sivante]

I never disliked Lyse. She was a bit annoying, but she evolved through the story, being made aware of her shortcomings and trying to fix them.

I hated her, but I think it was because she wasn't given enough story nuance. Everything with her felt silly levels of ham-fisted and forced. I think I would have liked her more if they took time with her. That being said, Fur-Lyse makes me love Lyse by comparison.

[Swordsman]

Update: Steam score dropped by 1%. Added Steam reviews in the last 30 days which currently sits at 39% (Mostly Negative).

[Uncle_Jafar]

Update: Steam score dropped by 1%. Added Steam reviews in the last 30 days which currently sits at 39% (Mostly Negative).

Yet steam numbers are EXACTLY the same as when EW came out.

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

[Rabblerabble]

I want to know what avenue of voicing discontent is valid at this point.

I've seen the wannabe Marxist activist types saying forum posting = not valid form of criticism..

Metacritic reviews = review bombs..

Steam reviews = review bombs. Vocal minority. etc.

At what point or length does someone who genuinely wants to leave a sincere review have to go to to be considered not a review bomber?
Do we just shut up like they intend? Do they want to just stifle any dissent and get their way no matter what low they have to stoop to? I'm inclined to believe there's a much larger situation at play.

[genuine_stranger]

I want to know what avenue of voicing discontent is valid at this point.

I've seen the wannabe Marxist activist types saying forum posting = not valid form of criticism..

Metacritic reviews = review bombs..

Steam reviews = review bombs. Vocal minority. etc.

At what point or length does someone who genuinely wants to leave a sincere review have to go to to be considered not a review bomber?
Do we just shut up like they intend? Do they want to just stifle any dissent and get their way no matter what low they have to stoop to? I'm inclined to believe there's a much larger situation at play.

The only valid reviews are the positive ones, of course!
Remember, whenever you say something bad about the game, you have to dismiss your point immediately and make a positive point about the bad thing you just pointed out. Only then does the hivemind accept your review.

[Aldath]

Yet steam numbers are EXACTLY the same as when EW came out.

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

And honestly that's why I'm giving up on this game. It's gonna become yet another Pokemon situation, where the reviews can be abysmal yet the sales will be gigantic, and of course all that the company cares for is how much money it makes, better yet if they barely need to make an effort.

[Zackneifein]

I want to know what avenue of voicing discontent is valid at this point.

I've seen the wannabe Marxist activist types saying forum posting = not valid form of criticism..

Metacritic reviews = review bombs..

Steam reviews = review bombs. Vocal minority. etc.

At what point or length does someone who genuinely wants to leave a sincere review have to go to to be considered not a review bomber?
Do we just shut up like they intend? Do they want to just stifle any dissent and get their way no matter what low they have to stoop to? I'm inclined to believe there's a much larger situation at play.

That's called toxic positivity.

And that's the best way to kill FFXIV.
Those who are voicing discontent but still playing the game are those who care for the game and hope that it will stay alive as long as possible
Those who are all about toxic positivity are those who don't (I'm not talking about those who liked Dawntrail, but those who are berating people for complaining with any justification, even stupid ones, or even worse who are telling to stop playing).
Those who aren't on any social media / forum and that aren't voicing their discontent are the "main" justification used by those guys to say "you are just a vocal minority", but what they don't understand is that they are also the one who will just stop playing without warning if the quality of the game hit rock bottom. And it will be too late to complain after that.

[Zackneifein]

Yet steam numbers are EXACTLY the same as when EW came out.

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

Because peoples don't stop playing MMORPG on a whim (for most).

It's a long process, but once it's started, 9 times out of 10 it's unstoppable. Dawntrail isn't close to being what could cause this for now but ignoring complaint could lead to that if the story remain divisive.