JP: Yoshi P should step down, FF14 is a sinking ship, in response to interview

[TheGrimace]

Actual good PR when a product is this disastrous is to candidly admit to the mistakes and propose solutions.

"disastrous" lol

[Mondschnee]

That being said, it's a little odd for a German site to talk about Wuk Lamat's voice acting being a point of criticism when apparently the German voice actor for her was very good, but we are talking about games journalists, I suppose. Anything to redirect discussion from the game itself.
https://jpgames.de/2024/09/final-fan...-an-wuk-lamat/

Hi, German here. Many of us play the game in english and post on the english forums. Therefore we are no stranger to these topics. The interviewer is likely also one of these players.

[Oizen]

I mean I don't expect him to come out and say "Dawntrail sucks because Square Enix has been pissing away all of its money on horrific flop after horrific flop and I'm in charge of FFXIV, FFXVI and two other games and barely give the time of day to FFXIV anymore"
I've gotten the impression that Yoshida doesn't really care about anything in this game that much anymore outside of being a celebrity for its fanbase.

[Voidmage]

… but instead be more heavily involved again.

This here.

I don‘t want him to step down but to focus on the game again because I think his attention is somewhere else lately.

Yoshida is a good producer. He makes mistakes yes but he also gave us lots of good content and at least in the past good feedback.

Right now he seems to be completely overwhelmed by the situation, salvaging and saving what he can.
Or maybe he is just not used to respond to open negative questions because in the past those where mostly positive things journalists asked.

Anyway I am annoyed by those responses missing the point and I am happy that people on different sides and languages call it out, even the more positive ones.
I have the hope that it’s just PR and they find a solution but… I don‘t know.
I am starting to feel he didn‘t play the expansion at all.

Also:
>> "The way her character is designed is very Japanese"

Why do you always say she represents Japan as if she were the one?
What is Japanese about that beast?<<

The japanese are ruthless xD.
Some comments there are disgusting though. I will never understand that over the top pride in one’s own country…

[Aniise]

That jpgames interview has to be a damn joke. Those answers are straight up nothing more than lazy and apologetic to everything. Not one piece of criticism is being taken seriously, he has a silly apology for everything ready, and we just have to accept it.

"Please don't harass..." "You just don't understand..." "Just the beginning of a new stroy..." "You are a mentor..." my ass.

My god, of course you shouldn't harass anyone! But that doesn't mean people can't be criticized for their work! Especially the writing team and Wuks english VA did certainly NOT do their "very best for the development of the game". And our character was never a "mentor" of sorts to Wuk. She didn't even need one, she solved everything on her own and we and the scions were her cheerleaders at best.

This interview destroys every hope for them to acknowledge all the problems of DT in the next LL with one strike. I'm actually angry right now...I did not expect this.

[honest_psycho]

I am not sure why you consider this demand acceptable.
Even if they were the only person here, they devalue their own feedback by calling for someone's job based off a xpac's story being mixed in ratings while end game is just fine, and FF16 which while they may not like it, plenty of people certainly did.

First, my demand is that Hiroi and his co-writers be fired, not Yoshi-P himself. I want Yoshi-P to focus on FF14 and not split his attention like with FF16, which is a cheap Game of Thrones knock off, hidning behind Kaiju-spectacle.
As a result, he couldn't overlook DT's development and that's how we got this mess of a story. He would NOT have greenlit this Expac if he had been supervising from the start.

It is entitled to demand someone's job over this.

I'm a paying costumer and therefore entitled to a working product, the main product is the MSQ, which DID NOT work this time.
If I buy a car and the wheels come of after 5 minutes, I'm going to demand someone fired, I don't care how hard the people behind worked on the car, and I'm certainly not giving them a second chance.

I don't care how good the Raids are if the story is the main focus, I already made that point.

Between this and people calling for Wuk Lamat's VA's job while completely ignoring most the VAs this xpac have flat moments and the VA studio's director / approach is what needs to be adjusted - It is shameful.

I played with the JP voices, the EN VA is irrelevant for me. Don't lump me in the same box as actual bigots.

And can you people stop defending mediocre quality? I didn't expect a 10/10 but I'm fine with a 7/10 if the story is at least logically sound, especially after 10 years, but this ain't it chef.

[Morphiana]

And if you bothered to read said 16 pages, you might have noticed that no one (okay, let's say 1, just in case I've missed it) is actually calling for him to step down, but instead be more heavily involved again.

Get off your high horse. You won't get extra tomestones for defending Yoshi-P's honour.

And in the words of someone you may be familiar with:

Meanwhile there's a guy requesting a team of writers be fired directly before my post here. You were saying?

And no, it isn't appropriate to call for people's jobs because of one mixed review xpac. Sure, you didn't like it, and I'm not a fan of it either, but there are people who did enjoy it (who aren't here calling for people's jobs because they're enjoying it), and there were good parts to it.

Yoshi said they'd try new things when players demanded changes to what they considered stagnation of content, they'd fail at times in their attempts, and they'd learn from those failures to grow and get better. They're literally doing what we asked, they warned us we may not like some of these things, and they asked us to provide feedback so they could grow / change / continue to try new things.

The community collectively got what they wanted and now their angry it turned out as they were warned it could turn out as. Instead of giving them time to respond to feedback they're demanding someone(s) be fired be it a VA, a team of writers, or Yoshi. All of that is inexcusable and reeks of entitlement. Storm blood wasn't great, I dislike it as much as I'm not a fan of DT, but I'd never be so entitled to call for a person's job. They can give it another go, learn, get better, and hopefully give us another Shadowbringers. WoW bounced back from Shadowlands which was far worse, Yoshi's team can bounce back from this.

And high horse for not wanting to someone to lose their job over a misstep when we were explicitly warned it could happen as they try new things? Nah, get that silver spoon out of your mouth. People mess up at work then go on to do amazing work later. If they get another xpac so wildly wrong then fair enough, but for now I'm going to opt to give them time to grow while working on XIV's new direction.

[Dante131]

Yoshi said they'd try new things when players demanded changes to what they considered stagnation of content, they'd fail at times in their attempts, and they'd learn from those failures to grow and get better. They're literally doing what we asked, they warned us we may not like some of these things, and they asked us to provide feedback so they could grow / change / continue to try new things.

The community collectively got what they wanted and now their angry it turned out as they were warned it could turn out as. Instead of giving them time to respond to feedback they're demanding someone(s) be fired be it a VA, a team of writers, or Yoshi. All of that is inexcusable and reeks of entitlement. Storm blood wasn't great, I dislike it as much as I'm not a fan of DT, but I'd never be so entitled to call for a person's job. They can give it another go, learn, get better, and hopefully give us another Shadowbringers. WoW bounced back from Shadowlands which was far worse, Yoshi's team can bounce back from this.
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Can't remember getting asked for boring content. We are paying this guys you know ? It's not our Job to tell the grown up man and woman's in a big company what is good. Yes they have to do new stuff but you cannot tell me that a bunch of people been there and accept this as a good work. This Team hell no this company have standards and guess what they failed to reach them. After years they should know how to handle a new expansion period. The next point is and you might not get this, but it's normal if somebody is not good in his job that a company have to fire them. I missed comments like this when people don't get their package for example. Most are angry and they are right. Same goes for this.

[Catwho]

It's so frustrating because people are already throwing around the line he said about taking a break. I don't want to take a break, I don't want to play more than one mmo. I want to play this game and have a reasonable enough amount of things to do in it, even if it's casual. It has been 62 days since DT release at this point and, outside of raiding, there's nothing to do. I've never felt so reluctantly bound to the game because of my house and staying subbed to not lose it

I can't let this one slide by.

You want a reasonable amount of things to do, "even if it's casual." And yet you claim there is nothing to do.

If you're willing to do casual content, THERE IS A NEVER ENDING SUPPLY OF THINGS TO DO IN THIS GAME.

(Your account is showing up as a level 73 DRK, which may not be your main, but that tells me you've got at least one job you haven't taken to 100.)

Come join us in the achievement chasers! I'm hovering between #45 and #46 on my server these days.

[Besudo]

I feel like there's a distinct difference between casual content and busy work.

Collecting things like emotes, Triple Triad cards, barding, etc; vistas, verminion, completing all the entries in Varients, fate grinding, island sanctuary, these are a few things I consider casual content.

Mining 4000 times in a zone or finding 20000 pieces of Accursed Hoard to me is pure busywork. I know that's probably divisive since people will still point and say that mining that same few spots in Thanalan 4000 times is content since there's an achievement for it but I'll never be able to think of that as more than padding. I am glad that you and other hunters enjoy that sort of thing, I'll never rip on someone for liking what I don't.

A few simple things that would really help, since negative feedback without possible suggestions is frowned upon, is repurposing older content. Have us go back to Eureka and Bozja. You already have the zones and structure, put something there for players to go back to if they've completed the place. New items, glamours, field records to add to our collections with delicious lore, luring players back with things to get would help bridge gaps in content. And there's the added bonus of helping players that haven't been there before experience it without the struggle they sometimes face now.

Let's expand the pvp series idea and do that for pve content as well. Wondrous Tails is a tiny start and I know they trot out the Moogle Trove when there's a lull but having something on a permanent basis would be nice. Give us a handful of tasks everyday, similar to the vault in GW2. It could be tasks like "solo queue in DF for x dungeon" or "go do x amount of fates in lakeland". The solo queue removes the issue of just doing it with a party of blue mages or just filling it up and gently shunting people to various queues to help fill them for other players. You still have the roulettes but maybe a small exp bonus on that solo queue task with a currency to buy from a rotating list of items. Small things like this at least help give reasons to log in every day since the tasks would be the only way to get the special currency. As for items, it's a shame that the mog station is the dumping grounds for old event items- they'd be some of the perfect items to put in there for people to log in to grind for. Maybe there could be vouchers for things like old glams from dungeons or raids (like you could get a chest for EW Raid pants and get those pants you've never been able to win from that Nier raid).

I'm just spitting out ideas so these would need to be heavily balanced and adjusted but I feel like there's just more that can be done here. Something between content that pulls too many resources and busy work that's not particularly appealing.