JP: Yoshi P should step down, FF14 is a sinking ship, in response to interview

[Willemdarke]

They're not the only person here, we are 16 pages in, and I am not sure why you consider this demand acceptable.

And if you bothered to read said 16 pages, you might have noticed that no one (okay, let's say 1, just in case I've missed it) is actually calling for him to step down, but instead be more heavily involved again.

Get off your high horse. You won't get extra tomestones for defending Yoshi-P's honour.

And in the words of someone you may be familiar with:

Be better.

[Drimn]

And if you bothered to read said 16 pages, you might have noticed that no one (okay, let's say 1, just in case I've missed it) is actually calling for him to step down, but instead be more heavily involved again.

Get off your high horse. You won't get extra tomestones for defending Yoshi-P's honour.

And in the words of someone you may be familiar with:

I personally would like to think this is him being disengaged because he's got way too much on his plate, or just left the game in other hands because he mentally moved on post-EW, and that he's being fed information from people that may or may not have the game's best interests at heart. I'd like to think that, but I honestly don't know. I don't want him to step down because we saw what happened when Koji Fox and Ishikawa got promoted away from creative positions to managerial ones. Be very careful what you wish for if you go talking like that.

[Morphiana]

And if you bothered to read said 16 pages, you might have noticed that no one (okay, let's say 1, just in case I've missed it) is actually calling for him to step down, but instead be more heavily involved again.

Get off your high horse. You won't get extra tomestones for defending Yoshi-P's honour.

And in the words of someone you may be familiar with:

Meanwhile there's a guy requesting a team of writers be fired directly before my post here. You were saying?

And no, it isn't appropriate to call for people's jobs because of one mixed review xpac. Sure, you didn't like it, and I'm not a fan of it either, but there are people who did enjoy it (who aren't here calling for people's jobs because they're enjoying it), and there were good parts to it.

Yoshi said they'd try new things when players demanded changes to what they considered stagnation of content, they'd fail at times in their attempts, and they'd learn from those failures to grow and get better. They're literally doing what we asked, they warned us we may not like some of these things, and they asked us to provide feedback so they could grow / change / continue to try new things.

The community collectively got what they wanted and now their angry it turned out as they were warned it could turn out as. Instead of giving them time to respond to feedback they're demanding someone(s) be fired be it a VA, a team of writers, or Yoshi. All of that is inexcusable and reeks of entitlement. Storm blood wasn't great, I dislike it as much as I'm not a fan of DT, but I'd never be so entitled to call for a person's job. They can give it another go, learn, get better, and hopefully give us another Shadowbringers. WoW bounced back from Shadowlands which was far worse, Yoshi's team can bounce back from this.

And high horse for not wanting to someone to lose their job over a misstep when we were explicitly warned it could happen as they try new things? Nah, get that silver spoon out of your mouth. People mess up at work then go on to do amazing work later. If they get another xpac so wildly wrong then fair enough, but for now I'm going to opt to give them time to grow while working on XIV's new direction.

[Zaniel]

Yoshi said they'd try new things when players demanded changes to what they considered stagnation of content, they'd fail at times in their attempts, and they'd learn from those failures to grow and get better. They're literally doing what we asked, they warned us we may not like some of these things, and they asked us to provide feedback so they could grow / change / continue to try new things.

The community collectively got what they wanted and now their angry it turned out as they were warned it could turn out as. Instead of giving them time to respond to feedback they're demanding someone(s) be fired be it a VA, a team of writers, or Yoshi. All of that is inexcusable and reeks of entitlement. Storm blood wasn't great, I dislike it as much as I'm not a fan of DT, but I'd never be so entitled to call for a person's job. They can give it another go, learn, get better, and hopefully give us another Shadowbringers.

This isn't "got what they wanted". No one asked for boring nonsensical plots for 8 year olds that ignored lore, every basic tenet of storytelling and turned characters into idiots.

Sure, no one should be roaring for people to be fired, that's being childish but by the same token the people who brought us Dawntrail are manifestly un-equipped to deliver on what's required for the FF14 MSQ. It really doesn't matter if it's their own lack of talent or poor supervision or outside influences, the only thing that matters is the horrible outcome. So the team need to go back and work out why all this happened and whatever that pain point is, address it. If that means people need to be reassigned and more experienced writers brought in, then that's what needs to happen.

Dawntrail's MSQ is such a disaster there is no "Oh let's try the same thing again, but harder" or "Let's just keep throwing at the wall and see if it works". Fix needed now, how CBU3 do this is up to them.