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    JP: Yoshi P should step down, FF14 is a sinking ship, in response to interview

    http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../61755714.html

    JP comments in response to Yoshi P interview. Translator original link down below.

    “Wuk Lamat’s complex isn’t really a problem”

    1. Seriously? You wanted to make her even more annoying??? LOL That’s not the issue at all, LOL.


    2. Didn’t feel like she had much of a complex, and Koana’s portrayal blurred that even more. Zoraal Ja was the only one who seemed like a weak point, but even that wasn’t depicted well, so we never got what their relationship was like. And with how it ended, there’s no fixing it. The slow pace of the story was due to repeating similar cutscenes and ineffective comedy scenes, and it dragged on throughout the narrative. It’s not just a Wuk Lamat problem. The food trial, sudden power-up, the stage, the Smile—there’s just too much to list this time.


    3. She has a complex about being less than her brothers, but she never really questions if she’s fit to be a ruler. She says she wants to understand others, but everything’s about how she sees it, with no consideration for others. She uses people, puts them down, or discards them without hesitation. I thought she was completely selfish and narcissistic—where’s the lack of confidence?


    4. They didn’t nail the story of a low-confidence character growing. Alphinaud also had a growth story, but it was followed through much longer after the expansion’s .0 patch, whereas this was rushed and condensed, which is the issue. Focusing on portraying her as a confident character from the start was just the wrong move.


    5. More than Wuk Lamat’s complex, it’s more about how Warrior of Light is just a backseat observer and shutting down Living Memory without hesitation...


    6. Instead of focusing on her complex about her father and brothers, they should’ve focused on Zoraal Ja’s twisted complex about his dad. He’s got this huge father complex, yet the golden alpacas and the fight against Valigarmanda were depicted with excitement. In contrast, Wuk Lamat has an inferiority complex toward them, but she quickly surpasses Zoraal Ja in combat and Koana in intelligence through instinct, so she overcomes her struggles too fast, leaving no catharsis. When it comes to being fit to rule, all three are below Nanamo from A Realm Reborn.

    7. When Wuk Lamat said, “I’m getting tired of this” during the quiz event at the Living Memory-styled building, I was honestly just done. I’d managed to hold on until then, but that completely broke me. She showed no consideration for others. Krile was there, trying to learn about her origins, and Wuk Lamat was being so insensitive. If she’d been written as a strong woman from the start, this wouldn’t have happened. I wouldn’t have been so disillusioned with Dawntrail. Hey, Yoshi-P, why did you do this?


    8. I spent the whole game wondering if it was really okay to make her a ruler, and having to choose between bad options was just painful.


    9. She’s hated because she lacks any kind of sensitivity. From A Realm Reborn onward, the characters who don’t care about others, no matter how strong or weak they are, are disliked. Characters like Haurchefant are popular because they’re considerate and take care of others.


    10. Wuk Lamat was portrayed as having some complex about her parents and siblings. Because of that, she lacked confidence, which I think is why the story felt slow and frustrating. Really...? To me, she seemed like a spoiled princess, despite being adopted, who lived far beyond her status and enjoyed her privileges, growing up naïve... So there’s a contradiction in her character, where she supposedly wants to learn more about others despite knowing nothing outside Tuliyollal... Her seasickness and “I’m not scared!” cheap characterization felt hastily added... Despite being weak and easily kidnapped, she suddenly becomes strong without any convincing events... The whole thing just feels broken.

    11. The low-confidence character thing was already done with Lyse. Wuk Lamat was portrayed as confident and brash from the start, but the nervousness was supposed to be cute, right? But 7.0 was full of annoying nervousness, and if she had a seasickness issue, why wasn’t that shown when she landed in Sharlayan or headed to Ham Island?

    “Yoshi-P is out of touch”

    1. If they don’t understand the problem, nothing’s going to change. It’s over, our journey’s done.

    2. Yoshi-P doesn’t seem to be playing the game.

    3. Yoshida should probably step down.

    4. I’ve felt a disconnect between Yoshida and the players for years now; it’s probably time he steps down...

    5. Yoshida seems out of touch. They hinted at a complex in 6.5 and early 7.0, but it was just surface level. She talked about her complex and then immediately resolved it, so she wasn’t really bothered by it. If anything, she bounced back quickly and started lecturing others, acting like she deserved all the support she got.

    6. It’s not that the story “dipped after Endwalker,” it’s that the story is just sloppy. You shouldn’t bash individual staff too much, but Yoshida, as the guy in charge, doesn’t get the problem at all (or maybe he’s dodging it), and his excuses are so superficial that he deserves all the criticism.

    7. If Yoshida really thinks this way, not because of a translation error, then I think the story of FF14 is genuinely over.

    8. I bet Yoshida hasn’t played through this because he’s too busy. There’s no way a PD would play through this boring progression and Wuk Lamat’s excessive screen time, only to find the character hollow, and not notice. If he played it through and still approved this interview, that’s even worse.

    9. Yoshida hasn’t played through all the DT content, has he? Otherwise, he couldn’t say something like this. He’s completely out of touch. Please prep a proper script before giving interviews.

    10. Yoshida needs to realize that since FF16, his games’ stories have been unpopular. I don’t know if it’s the writers’ fault or if the original concept was flawed, but from the outside, it’s clear there’s no one left at Square Enix who can fix this disconnect. The ship is sinking...

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus..._couldve_been/
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    Last edited by AnimalsALot; 08-30-2024 at 10:02 AM.

  2. 08-30-2024 09:44 AM
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    I changed my mind

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    oh boi cant wait to see how well this goes and get deleted

    oh hey another titan man
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    I think you should calm down, FF14 isn't a sinking ship, in response to your reply.


    And I'm saying that as probably one of the loudest criticizer of the MSQ on this forum, feel free to look through my post history of the last 2 months to confirm.

    If anything, the fact that they have been trying to avoid talking about WuK at all until pressed for it, and Yoshi put up his most diplomatic talk to skirt around the issue actually tell me how acutely aware about the issue. But sometime, being a copo meaning you have to do copo speak.

    At this point, I think the community have given them all the feedback they'll ever need to identify the issue, and I have far less interest in what the dev said on the issue and will judge them on what they gonna do about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Yoshi put up his most diplomatic talk to skirt around the issue actually tell me how acutely aware about the issue. But sometime, being a copo meaning you have to do copo speak.
    Actual good PR when a product is this disastrous is to candidly admit to the mistakes and propose solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    Actual good PR when a product is this disastrous is to candidly admit to the mistakes and propose solutions.
    Like I said I'm too old to care about what gaming company say for their PR, I'm more interested in what they actually do. Most recent example is with Arrowhead and HellDiver 2. Their CEO is a really charismatic guy that at one point was even compared to the Yoshi of old and always know the right thing to say. Yet what was actually delivered by his team has been a constant disappointment after disappointment.

    So yeah, I'll wait for the actual real satisfaction I'll get when I physically obtain the result I want. I don't need Yoshi to give me a pointless mental validation with their words. That's why I'm also someone who despite playing the game for 10 years, have never really watched a single live letter or interview.
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  8. 08-30-2024 11:21 AM
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    Honestly the more I play this expansion the more I agree with the doom-and-gloomers

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    Nah . . . he is the savior of FF14. (maybe even Square). Please unsub while I enjoy Echoes of Vana'diel story and raid series until year 2026.

    kthxbye.
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    Why would you delete a thread about JP feedback? It is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I think you should calm down, FF14 isn't a sinking ship, in response to your reply.
    The OP's very first line after the link:

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    JP comments in response to Yoshi P interview. Translator original link down below.
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    It'll be pretty funny if Final Fantasy XI ends up outlasting this game. Cause the upcoming Echos of Vana will ether pull the nostalgic back in or players will be curious about the first online final fantasy game.

    Plus there is rumors FFXI will get their own fantasia potions, so maybe in its old age male Mithra will finally be playable, female Galka can't be done as its lore they are an all male race. Tho how are they gonna be able to do 8 (or 7 if one of the male Mithra use Lehko's face and hair) plus the B variations of them? and then the battle grunts for all 7~8 variations.

    Its only western twitter/x that creams themselves over "uwu I wanna marry Wuk SHE is best GIRL uwu" JP players see her as a female Naruto (tho thats an insult to Naruto...shes more like Sakura lmao...tho to be fair Sakura had flaws and did have some growth to her character) or kiddy Shonen anime protagonist.
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    He's probably too busy making more soon to be SE flops.
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