Unsubbed Thread (Tell us why)

[Ardeth]

There's literally nothing to do if you don't care about raiding. Granted, it's always like this. But for whatever reason, it is sticking out more now. It's probably because the story sucked so I'm not looking forward to more.

[Tunda]

There's literally nothing to do if you don't care about raiding. Granted, it's always like this. But for whatever reason, it is sticking out more now. It's probably because the story sucked so I'm not looking forward to more.

As someone who enjoy midcore content more than high end raiding,

I was always having fun in previos expansion for these reasons:
1- excited for new jobs and changes to current changes.
2- extreme, unreal and bozja content.
3- story.

first one is just at worst state
second one we still waiting for unreal and bozja-like content
third one is idk exist

[Ardeth]

As someone who enjoy midcore content more than high end raiding,

I was always having fun in previos expansion for these reasons:
1- excited for new jobs and changes to current changes.
2- extreme, unreal and bozja content.
3- story.

first one is just at worst state
second one we still waiting for unreal and bozja-like content
third one is idk exist

I'm not sure where I sit on that one. I tried the raids and got to m3, but I never started it. The fights took too long. I didn't find them really challenging, but the length of it drove me insane. Someone would cause a wipe, and you have to start it over, and it just feels from the perspective of time to kill they have too much hp, or the dps in my group sucked. Either way, it was miserable to do.

I hate Bozja. Something about it is elitist, and I just hate that kind of content. Same with Extremes. Never tried unreals, but Extremes were enough to nope me out. It's not even like the content is hard. It just breeds this hyper optimized sort that needs to desperately go outside and touch some grass.

But lately, I've been just kinda afking into roulettes bored out of my mind.

I might jump over to Wow. I heard the story for the War Within isn't bad, and it's something to do. I'm not looking forward to the new Bozja unless it's more casual and friendly and less elitist, but I doubt that is going to happen. I might quit until the end of the expansion and pick up where I left off.

[BabyYoda]

I'm not sure where I sit on that one. I tried the raids and got to m3, but I never started it. The fights took too long. I didn't find them really challenging, but the length of it drove me insane. Someone would cause a wipe, and you have to start it over, and it just feels from the perspective of time to kill they have too much hp, or the dps in my group sucked. Either way, it was miserable to do.

I hate Bozja. Something about it is elitist, and I just hate that kind of content. Same with Extremes. Never tried unreals, but Extremes were enough to nope me out. It's not even like the content is hard. It just breeds this hyper optimized sort that needs to desperately go outside and touch some grass.

But lately, I've been just kinda afking into roulettes bored out of my mind.

I might jump over to Wow. I heard the story for the War Within isn't bad, and it's something to do. I'm not looking forward to the new Bozja unless it's more casual and friendly and less elitist, but I doubt that is going to happen. I might quit until the end of the expansion and pick up where I left off.

I wouldn't be surprised if WoW new story is better than DT

I couldn't imagine that one day we will get mediocre story from best Japanese gaming studio and specially FFXIV

[Ardeth]

I wouldn't be surprised if WoW new story is better than DT

I couldn't imagine that one day we will get mediocre story from best Japanese gaming studio and specially FFXIV

To be fair, I never felt it was extraordinarily good. Shadowbringers was good. Parts of Heavensward were good, but I've never thought it was like the pinnacle of storytelling. However, Dawntrail is just bad. It falls into Dora at some points. Like I get, most people are dumb, but I feel like I am being talked down to. Like I don't get it.

But I don't expect much. Gonna go smash things on my Warrior get overwhelmed by Wow's multitude of systems and end up playing something else. Maybe 14. I don't know. It's been 11 years. The game has been stale for me for years, but it's home in that sense.

[BakoolJaJa]

I wouldn't be surprised if WoW new story is better than DT

I couldn't imagine that one day we will get mediocre story from best Japanese gaming studio and specially FFXIV

I mean... It is. It does exactly what it sets out to do. It does it well. It is a WoW story through and through, the way WoW players want and like it to be. Great characters are back and they have the spotlight. Xal'atath is an amazing antagonist that doesn't just appear out of nowhere, in fact what makes it/her so great is that she and the void were constantly there, somewhere in the background doing their incomprehensible terrifying things. The "new" races/cultures present are actually DIFFERENT and interesting to learn about, you feel like you are truly in their world.

Compare it to Dawntrail, where the scions are just missing, the characters we're supposed to care for either suck or get no screen time. The antagonists are complete nonsense, and are all declared as the antagonists a few quests before you get to murder them. The cultures that were supposedly the selling point are just recolors of old beast tribes except even more stupid somehow. And of course the entire "vacation! adventure! rivalry!" components are just outright missing.

War Within is miles better than Dawntrail. I realize many people on ffxiv forums are not quite ready to hear that, but it's the truth. I'd even argue that Dragonflight was better than Dawntrail, as that was WoW's "reset" expansion with "low stakes" and "adventure" that SURPRISE, you actually DID get. You actually felt like a damn adventurer in a new land, exploring cool shit, not worrying about the good old faction war. And the game was modernized too, something ffxiv will just never get apparently.

[Garolymar]

I wouldn't be surprised if WoW new story is better than DT

I couldn't imagine that one day we will get mediocre story from best Japanese gaming studio and specially FFXIV

TWW story is the same mediocre WoW trite, but the dungeons this time around are really damn good. I wish FF would go balls to the wall crazy with new ideas for dungeons instead of the same old hallways with boring trash packs and bosses that just constantly reuse the same mechanics with new special effects.
The Dawnbreaker dungeon has a couple fights where the gameplay feels cinematic instead of just being a cinematic. Flying away on your mount to get away from the giant AOE or chasing the boss through the dungeon while collecting orbs so you don't die to the radiating damage is really cool. The team should really look into spicing up what actually happens in the dungeons and what you're doing because DT feels like just more of the same of what we've always had.

Get experimental, get weird with it. Make me say, "wow that surprised me!"

[Aldath]

There's literally nothing to do if you don't care about raiding. Granted, it's always like this. But for whatever reason, it is sticking out more now. It's probably because the story sucked so I'm not looking forward to more.

This is probably one of the biggest reasons I'm unsubbing, as a "midcore" player.

A little background: I used to be an avid GW2 player, but I left because the game has a BIG issue with introducing new mechanics and content and then forgetting they exist. Just imagine: we have no new dungeons and raids since they were first introduced.

People keep saying how FFXIV had this thing that made old content always stay relevant and you had reasons to run it, and honestly I was a big fan of Soken's music, so I decided to hop on during the Endwalker pandemic thing. And then I discovered what I've been told for years was really stretching it.

We have an ungodly amount of content in between dungeons, trials, raids, ARs, exploratory maps, etc. But most of them have been reduced to walking simulators because of the power creep and lack of polish, and even though they give us a reason to do them through Wondrous Tails, people would rather unsync and do them as fast as possible. In fact, it seems most people would rather not participate at all. This is the first time I play an MMO where players would rather not play the game

Worse still, Yoshida expects us to play through all that content yet they haven't done the minimal effort to keep it up to date. Super fun to spend an hour hyping up Titan and losing time making a banquet for some douches to tell us the weak spot is the big shiny thing, just for the powerful primal to die when you sneeze at his direction.