M4S has officially been beaten without healers in week 2

[Bobby66]

Wow... it's almost like healers use to have an engaging damage rotation, and they took it away so not as many people enjoy the role lol.

If tanks want to have fun dealing damage they should play dps.

I don't really care that tanks have healing, it's basically the only utility the game can give since they've watered down so many aspects of job design. But they have so much they're invincible even up to extreme content. Most people here are asking that "Hey, maybe the tanks shouldn't be invincible" and your response is asking why you want to take away their fun...

Let tanks be Gods at mitigation, let them stop 90% of all the damage for all I care, but let the hp they do lose be the healers' job.

My response is hey maybe don't take parts that have drove many new players to the role such as the relative higher DPS for effort, and the forgivable nature the role provides.

As stated I am fine with sustain nerfs, I would even go further and make it so no other role beside healers can rez or if they give another role a rez it is on a 10 min CD while in combat.

Issue is as someone that lost their favorite playstyle with old smn I am also mindful of how removing certain elements can really hurt ones personal enjoyment so I being mindful of that.

I do not trust SE to remove elements of play and replace it with something equal.

Just being able to eat vuln stacks and trivialize entire encounters goes beyond "forgiving".

I mean God's forgive no? Bad joke.

Maybe other's are fine with the removal of stuff and have faith SE will add more or do more with the extra design space. If we are being honest has SE actually delivered on that claim for any job they removed something from?

[Turtledeluxe]

My response is hey maybe don't take parts that have drove many new players to the role such as the relative higher DPS for effort, and the forgivable nature the role provides.

Just being able to eat vuln stacks and trivialize entire encounters goes beyond "forgiving".