Dawntrail's MSQ story is a disaster and waste of potential. [full spoilers]

[gumas]

At this point I think the next expansion would need to be Cataclysm...

A total revisit of La Nosca, Twelveswood, and Thanalan. But they'll never do that.

i always kinda want cataclysm like expansion for ff14, maybe a new limsa uldah and gridania area because a disaster strike, or just go crazy like we wol got into accident that jump us 20 years into the future so everything has change and lot of bad things happen during it but because we wol wasnt there, thing got worse

stuff like that

[Hyperia]

It’s starting to feel like Yoshi is director and producer in name only as he is overloaded with too much work. He already said he has to spend more time in PR than he wanted along with board work.

With CBU3 being tasked with two more games, they have to pull their seasoned teams away and let the new people work on XIV as they would never let rookies work on a new game.

I too have the feeling that we have what we have and everything is starting to go into maintenance mode.

[Voidmage]

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Personally I think the reason is far less spectacular or dark.

Yoshida in the past seemed to have a very hands on approach with micromanaging and planing all things way in advance to the finest detail.

In a recent interview he said that he is more hands off lately.
That coupled with „new“ and inexperienced writers resulted probably in all this.
The battle designers had it „easier“ with normal content in that they just have to take their experience from harder content. Even their strategy is if you brake it down „more of the same or a safe approach“.

I have seen that in real life.
Workers who have their entire day planned in detail go into projects and are overwhelmed with the difference.
Timemanagement, prioritizing, self initiated communication are things that have to be learned and Japan is probably also not the most modern place for that.

What we see might be the inbetween of changes in the teamstructure and strategy at the devs side and maybe that’s needed.
The game wouldn’t have a future if it is entirely dependent on Ishikawa, YoshiP or Soken.
What I criticize is more that it seems that they see FF14 as a game that will sell no matter what and that they have become too easy going in a number of areas.

If that’s the case than it’s more the fault of Yoshida though.
He is the one who has the overlook and with new people a hands off might be the wrong move.

In the end we will never get an answer and there will always be players who will like how DT turned out and no one is necessarily wrong.
We who are unhappy can just give feedback and hope for the best.

All in all I have given all feedback I wanted and probably won‘t comment much more.
The ball is in their field now.

[Manamaru]

I too have the feeling that we have what we have and everything is starting to go into maintenance mode.

Given that FF14 is one of Squenix's main money makers, they would sooner play all their sleeved cards, from Sephiroth Trial/Raid fight to a number of other things before they go into maintenance mode.

Part of the problem is, if you're familiar with all the things listed to be included into this expansion, they've spread themselves incredibly thin with trying to keep things in check and get things in order. Field operations, space exploration for crafters, trials, new race, new dye capability, updated graphics, expansion story, raids, alliance raid, new jobs, etc. etc. etc. . I believe the team is just spread out so much that they don't have a proper handle on QC really seeing how the writers and localizers would do their jobs on top of everything else. At best, it is incredibly lazy for them to have written some story points like what I mentioned before for the sake of moving the plot along to us eventually being in opposition of Sphene. At worst, it's incredibly insulting that they willingly ignored such a crucial detail like that and hoped that we would've forgotten or not thought much about it because ooh look jingle keys.

[BigBoom550]

Given that FF14 is one of Squenix's main money makers, they would sooner play all their sleeved cards, from Sephiroth Trial/Raid fight to a number of other things before they go into maintenance mode.

Part of the problem is, if you're familiar with all the things listed to be included into this expansion, they've spread themselves incredibly thin with trying to keep things in check and get things in order. Field operations, space exploration for crafters, trials, new race, new dye capability, updated graphics, expansion story, raids, alliance raid, new jobs, etc. etc. etc. . I believe the team is just spread out so much that they don't have a proper handle on QC really seeing how the writers and localizers would do their jobs on top of everything else. At best, it is incredibly lazy for them to have written some story points like what I mentioned before for the sake of moving the plot along to us eventually being in opposition of Sphene. At worst, it's incredibly insulting that they willingly ignored such a crucial detail like that and hoped that we would've forgotten or not thought much about it because ooh look jingle keys.

The story should have been tighter, shorter, and smaller. I would have taken a lower stakes, more basic 'fun' adventure with some random locals over... whatever this was. Halve the length and flesh out what's there by cutting the useless fluff, and it'd have been pretty great. Fill it out in the patches.

Alpaca Vidraal as the first trial. Valigarmanda second. Golden city guardian as the 100 trial. There you go.

[Teraluna]

Instead they tried to give the playerbase a world threatening scenario, which turned out to have all the depth of kitchen foil.
DT writers, if you're going to try something that serious you need to take a long look at how it's done, then go away and practice.

[All_Nonsense]

He would have been so much more compelling if they had written him with a fervent desire to prove himself worthy of being the true ruler of Tural and having that devolve into near fanatical desperation as he falls farther and farther behind in the rite of succession, culminating in him turning to Sphene's advanced technology to seize the throne that he feels is rightfully his in exchange for allowing Sphene to harvest his people for their souls and life aether.

In 1 sentence you literally fixed half of the problems with the antagonists in this expac. How did the story we got pass through QA and executive review and no one thought of that?

[Turtledeluxe]

Zoraal Ja is so poorly written. He goes from "Anyone who aids me will have all the land they desire" to "Omg I was so burdened by everyone counting on me".

[Vensaval]

Zoraal Ja is so poorly written. He goes from "Anyone who aids me will have all the land they desire" to "Omg I was so burdened by everyone counting on me".

To this day I'm still lost on his motivations for anything he did.

[Zantetsuken5]

"I want end all wars, by going to war!"

"Actually I just have daddy issues"