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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Are they wrong?

    I have no problem seeing Sena as a woman, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to.

    The concept of transgenderism is still new to our world.
    I think the issue is that in order for transgenderism to "work," it requires having everyone adhere to the system set by those people.

    If one person defies the system, then the people who set it, get really defensive. The reason for that is due to how it's currently structured and where it's coming from.

    The biggest issue with the structure of their system is that simply questioning any aspect of it, gives them grounds to immediately dismiss everything you say henceforth under the grounds of being a "transphobe" or something else, simply because you questioned it. Usually, if something is strong or comes from a good foundation of existence, you wouldn't need to get defensive at the mere questioning of it, since you would've had confidence in who you are to begin with. You wouldn't need to argue with people about who you were, if you believe in yourself. You may not harbor any hate whatsoever to them, but they will convince you that you are hateful, regardless of the situation or any deeper context around it.

    Where it comes from, is the people centered around them convincing them something is true. There's a phenomenon called the "illusory truth effect" where repeated exposure to any false information can cause someone to believe that information to be more true then actual true information. If you for example are repeatedly told left handed people are full of sin. You might end up believing that, because you will compare it to something you already know to be true, then because something is more familiar due to repetition, that familiarity can overpower the truth. Causing someone to believe something just from repeated exposure to it. Familiarity overpowers rationality.

    All this tells me is that the social aspects of transgenderism don't really have a sturdy foundation to them, because when you question anything, that social illusion is broken, causing defensive behavior. You have to play House essentially or else face ostracization, if you happen to be speaking in an area that houses alot of people who play it willingly.

    More on topic with the game, I want to see the next Live Letter and see how the team responds to the feedback of the MSQ. They may just flat out ignore anything to do with Wuk to keep discussion down. But it will be interesting to see if any of them respond to the MSQ at all
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    I'm not giving a direct reply about politics to someone with Loli in their name.
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    I originaly did write out a larger post about Trans History, perception of gender in history and all that but decided to delete it again.
    Because lets be honest here.
    We debating that here will do nothing.
    I could make a whole essay with citation and sources and it would be seen as fake.
    Arguments and Statements will basicly loop and we get nowhere.
    At the end of the day this is a Forum of a MMORPG in a thread about Condeming harassment towards a Voice Actress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    I'm not giving a direct reply about politics to someone with Loli in their name.
    You're kinda proving their point.
    Also back at your previous comment. In Canada (can't speak for the rest of the world), trans rights have only been a thing since 2017. The focus trans people are getting now is 100% new. No one knew anything or cared about them before for the most part (unless you knew someone who was trans).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    I'm not giving a direct reply about politics to someone with Loli in their name.
    Let's be real here, you'd pick some other superficial shallow reason to avoid discussion if that wasn't the easiest thing to spot first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaifuLoli View Post
    Let's be real here, you'd pick some other superficial shallow reason to avoid discussion if that wasn't the easiest thing to spot first.
    You can put Loli in your name if you want. I can ignore posts from Loli accounts if I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    You can put Loli in your name if you want. I can ignore posts from Loli accounts if I want.
    Responding isn't ignoring. Not responding at all is ignoring. Your response is more instigating more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    You can put Loli in your name if you want. I can ignore posts from Loli accounts if I want.
    Well you didn't ignore 2 posts from me so far.I never even direct replied to you the first time, yet you act as if I was expecting you to reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Responding isn't ignoring. Not responding at all is ignoring. Your response is more instigating more than anything.
    Why go to bat for them? I'm ignoring their political post about transgender"ism", but I'm not ignoring their name.
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    > "I'm not giving a direct reply about politics to someone with Loli in their name."
    > gives someone with Loli in their name a direct reply

    lol, lmao even
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