With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Midare]

Man, I'm such a boomer, I remember when people tried to have a personality instead of relying on labels.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

Man, I'm such a boomer, I remember when people tried to have a personality instead of relying on labels.

This was literally never the case.

Jock, nerd, goth, provider, homemaker, entrepreneur, job creator, carpetbagger, whatever. People use labels to inflate themselves, deflate others, and find community. I don't find them useful, but who cares? What's weirder is someone defining their identity in opposition to someone's personal labels. Like, what are you doing?

[BigBoom550]

https://imgur.com/gallery/title-ZlFTG4t

I'm just leaving this here... embedding's fighting me.

[Vensaval]

Noting that this thread has successfully been derailed into discussion speculation about Wuk Lamat because of a single individual.

[Hesitate89]

We don't know Wuk Lamats Age either, only clue of her age is Namika, who appeared young when she mentioned the story of Wuk Lamat

[BakoolJaJa]

Yeah, the "they" argument isn't very good, though I also agree with the rest of the points. I feel like there are two camps of people, those who really dislike using the pronoun "they" for singular persons and then those who are completely fine with it. The first group refuses to use the word in even those situations where it should be used, for example when the gender of a person is unknown, or with non-binary people, etc. The second group freely uses the word whenever.

It's a nice pronoun. I'm not a native speaker, but I find it neat, it helps avoid unpleasant mistakes and confusion. It helps to not misgender as well. Or at least it used to. Is it wrong to use now? I thought it's an ambiguous, genderless word. Sort of how "dude" is also okay to use for everyone.

[Sivante]

Yeah, the "they" argument isn't very good, though I also agree with the rest of the points. I feel like there are two camps of people, those who really dislike using the pronoun "they" for singular persons and then those who are completely fine with it. The first group refuses to use the word in even those situations where it should be used, for example when the gender of a person is unknown, or with non-binary people, etc. The second group freely uses the word whenever.

It's a nice pronoun. I'm not a native speaker, but I find it neat, it helps avoid unpleasant mistakes and confusion. It helps to not misgender as well. Or at least it used to. Is it wrong to use now? I thought it's an ambiguous, genderless word. Sort of how "dude" is also okay to use for everyone.

To the credit of Squig, the use of 'they' in the US has become a contentious topic as some people consider its use to be a tacit attempt to not use a persons chosen pronouns. Thus a generally innocent statement has become a point of possible conflict. It's not something a non-native speak generally needs to worry about.

[Achereon]

To the credit of Squig, the use of 'they' in the US has become a contentious topic as some people consider its use to be a tacit attempt to not use a persons chosen pronouns. Thus a generally innocent statement has become a point of possible conflict. It's not something a non-native speak generally needs to worry about.

Problem is they are in the US and the US is not global to try and push what they think is right or wrong on global is the most irritating thing I have ever found.

I even went so far before to say that Americans need to remember there are 7 continents, with multiple countries in each one; each with its own population and world views the US thinking that their way of thinking is the only way is the vilest narcissistic thing i have ever seen and it really needs to stop.

Those that are not included in the above I hope you know who you are and if not, it is those who accepts that not everyone is the same and that things like they is used in numerous ways that does not form part of an ideology shared by whatever debate is ongoing in America.

[Sivante]

Problem is they are in the US and the US is not global to try and push what they think is right or wrong on global is the most irritating thing I have ever found.

I even went so far before to say that Americans need to remember there are 7 continents, with multiple countries in each one; each with its own population and world views the US thinking that their way of thinking is the only way is the vilest narcissistic thing i have ever seen and it really needs to stop.

Those that are not included in the above I hope you know who you are and if not, it is those who accepts that not everyone is the same and that things like they is used in numerous ways that does not form part of an ideology shared by whatever debate is ongoing in America.

As a US Citizen... you're dead on. You just summarized the bulk of the problems I have with my country. I always did find the idea of yelling at SE over things like 'black gospel' hilarious by example, as Japan is one of the most xenophobic places on the planet. Love the culture and it has some really cool features, but they aren't going to be giving a damn about that claim. Nor should they.

[Squig]

It's not wrong to use now but it's typically used (aside from when someone prefers to be referred to as such, of course) to talk about multiple people OR a singular person whose gender you don't know/is ambiguous, for instance a hypothetical person. If you know the person's gender/preferred pronouns then you would refer to them using their preferred pronouns, usually he/him or she/her.

If you were talking about your mom, you'd probably refer to her as "her," not "them."