With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Aword3213]

I think the issue is that in order for transgenderism to "work," it requires having everyone adhere to the system set by those people.


If one person defies the system, then the people who set it, get really defensive. The reason for that is due to how it's currently structured and where it's coming from.

The movement has changed so fast that I struggle to update my vocabulary for all those buzzwords comming up each day.

What annoys me, though, is that one can never be "allied" enough to them. No matter how much support and understanding you showed in the past, you're branded as transphobe/bigot for one wrong question, for not heeding the virtue signal, for not attaking other tranphobes hard enough.

The biggest issue with the structure of their system is that simply questioning any aspect of it, gives them grounds to immediately dismiss everything you say henceforth under the grounds of being a "transphobe" or something else, simply because you questioned it. Usually, if something is strong or comes from a good foundation of existence, you wouldn't need to get defensive at the mere questioning of it, since you would've had confidence in who you are to begin with. You wouldn't need to argue with people about who you were, if you believe in yourself. You may not harbor any hate whatsoever to them, but they will convince you that you are hateful, regardless of the situation or any deeper context around it.

Where it comes from, is the people centered around them convincing them something is true. There's a phenomenon called the "illusory truth effect" where repeated exposure to any false information can cause someone to believe that information to be more true then actual true information. If you for example are repeatedly told left handed people are full of sin. You might end up believing that, because you will compare it to something you already know to be true, then because something is more familiar due to repetition, that familiarity can overpower the truth. Causing someone to believe something just from repeated exposure to it. Familiarity overpowers rationality.

All this tells me is that the social aspects of transgenderism don't really have a sturdy foundation to them, because when you question anything, that social illusion is broken, causing defensive behavior. You have to play House essentially or else face ostracization, if you happen to be speaking in an area that houses alot of people who play it willingly.

Spot on. Even questions from within their community is not allowed. I heard stories about transgender people regreting thier transition. I tried to learn more about the use of hormones, their side effects, and possiblity for detransitioning. As soon as I mentioned detransitioning, all the friendly face turned hostile.

[Alchemii]

The movement has changed so fast that I struggle to update my vocabulary for all those buzzwords comming up each day.

What annoys me, though, is that one can never be "allied" enough to them. No matter how much support and understanding you showed in the past, you're branded as transphobe/bigot for one wrong question, for not heeding the virtue signal, for not attaking other tranphobes hard enough.




Spot on. Even questions from within their community is not allowed. I heard stories about transgender people regreting thier transition. I tried to learn more about the use of hormones, their side effects, and possiblity for detransitioning. As soon as I mentioned detransitioning, all the friendly face turned hostile.

This right here is why I don't care what they say anymore. The whole thing only gets worse the more you look into, it's all basically a giant front for the most unsavory of people. That hurl insults and labels around, while they themselves fit those labels and insults far more than the people they try and stick them on.

[Lyndina]

The thing for me is...i never meet "such" people irl. When i go work i never meet such people, supermarket..nope. In my freetime? Nope....this "movement" seems to only exist in Social Media. Or maybe living in east germany is a blessing so i dont have to deal with those people at all.*shrug*

However...this stuff is so hard thrown into our faces that it gets really annoying for me as a "bystander", which doesnt give a F about as what you describe yourself, as long as you leave me alone. But nope...this "small" minority is everywhere, just look at that olympic opening.

[Reinha]

Also Transphobie defined as social aversion or hostility (aggression) towards transgender people.

Aversion is defined as a strong dislike or disinclination. So why is the term transphobe attributed to people who are not hostile, aggressive nor dislike trans people, but do not share the belief that being a man (adult male human being) or a woman (adult female human being) is a matter of identity?

[phandaal]

Second why should she being a transwoman play any part in her getting the Role. It wasnt part of the marketing and if Transphobe wouldnt make such a big fuss about it nobody would have known it. Heck even other trans people i know didnt knew about it before i told them that. So no this explanation doesnt make sense.

We know why Sena got the role.

Sena is the only non-latino cast to play a role for a character in Tuliyollal. Sena confirmed this. Did you know that?

Were there no latina voice actors who might have wanted to perform the headline role for this expansion? Is that what you want to say?

Given Sena's performance compared to other voice actors (not just compared to other countries - even other English Tuliyollal voice actors), are you going to say that Sena was cast as the one singular non-latino voice actor out of the entire Tuliyollal cast, based on talent? Sena was just so much better than every latina woman who auditioned for the role of Wuk Lamat?

Please don't disrespect yourself by pretending to believe that.

[SwadTheFrog]

With the level of craziness here, I don't dare. Some of the people in this thread are completely unhinged.

Honesty fair.

[Aword3213]

Yes

It's not that hard.

Suddenly the world believes you

[DoomRyder]

Yes

It's not that hard.

Never in my life will I find that denying an obvious reality in my face is "not that hard."
I almost envy people capable of doing this.

[Picothea]

I come back to this thread after 42 pages and people are discussing if it's okay to deny someone's identity because "transgenderism is still new", which is plain wrong. This is why outsiders say the forum is used by the most toxic 1% of players. People might listen to you when threads don't devolve into hating voice actors.

[Donoman]

I come back to this thread after 42 pages and people are discussing if it's okay to deny someone's identity because "transgenderism is still new", which is plain wrong. This is why outsiders say the forum is used by the most toxic 1% of players. People might listen to you when threads don't devolve into hating voice actors.

Ikr? I'm surprised this is still here as well. It makes me appreciate active moderators of other forums more, it must be exhausting having to deal with this stuff. At least this is a good way to fish out the people who you can permanently block.