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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    If BLM could heal better than a WHM, WHM would be a broken class.
    So when WAR can tank better than a PLD, why is the PLD not broken?
    For anyone to claim, in most situations, that an average paladin can tank better than your average warrior they are just talking nonsense.
    Let's reflect, and tell me, if a DoM that was ment for damage dealing could heal better than a DoM that was ment for healing, would it not be broken? I look at the PLD/WAR issue exactly the same.
    Your example would be valid if BLM was meant to actually be able to heal.... It is not. Warrior and Paladin on the other hand are both tank style classes. Now if you said WHM is a better nuker than BLM, the class that is thought to be the top nuking class, then I could agree and say your analogy is valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    Yes...because we needed another thread on this topic. :::thinks of new things to add:::

    Every DD holds back no matter what job the tank is...period. Collusion and Cover are there for a reason.

    Every time we have had changes to game, some job is deemed useless or less than efficient and one is heralded. These "issues" people are having are not with the game, but the social stature and focus of the people playing around them.
    This.

    In my honest opinion, I think every DoW/DoM class should be viable to take along. Paladin included. Sure, have situations where it is beneficial to have certain ones over others... but ultimately, excluding jobs or forcing people to play other jobs they don't want to play in order to do content is just bad game design imo.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustercucumbers View Post
    Your example would be valid if BLM was meant to actually be able to heal.... It is not. Warrior and Paladin on the other hand are both tank style classes. Now if you said WHM is a better nuker than BLM, the class that is thought to be the top nuking class, then I could agree and say your analogy is valid.
    I thought WAR was supposed to be a DD or tank, and PLD was supposed to be tank only. XD
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  4. #64
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    Kalanthis Silverblade
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    i love tanking and i have to say pld broken it should be best tank in game but its for from that as a pld we still take to much dmg from ifirit and moogle in new raid we have no place in them warrior can tank and do alot of Dmg SE really need to fixs this
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    I thought WAR was supposed to be a DD or tank, and PLD was supposed to be tank only. XD
    Very True, but a Black Mage was never supposed to be a healer.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    I thought WAR was supposed to be a DD or tank, and PLD was supposed to be tank only. XD
    Aye WAR is supposed to be a tank that could tank groups of weaker mobs and can backup in the case a PLD goes down, and PLD is supposed to be the tank that can shrug off the hits and keep doing it's thing. Functionally they work perfectly, the problem however there isn't anything on PLD that really makes it take less damage than WAR (broken shield vs. parry mechanics aside).
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordCoheir View Post
    Aye WAR is supposed to be a tank that could tank groups of weaker mobs and can backup in the case a PLD goes down, and PLD is supposed to be the tank that can shrug off the hits and keep doing it's thing. Functionally they work perfectly, the problem however there isn't anything on PLD that really makes it take less damage than WAR (broken shield vs. parry mechanics aside).
    Maybe give PLD something utsusemi but for shields?
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    can this thread just disappear already?
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    "Buritoslicer Buritosandwich" is one of the best names on Lindblum.

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    Dear OP,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustercucumbers View Post
    Wait...... what? Did you literally say you can deflect 100% of damage and then one second later say you will never deflect 100%?
    Nom nom nom look at this troll post nom nom nom the word was capable and its in reference to the abilities and skills used to mitigated damage
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