Tanks holding fights hostage in Roulettes

[Plumerian_Ariadust]

Honey this is duty finder not savage

Nobody is going to join a learning party for vali normal

Exactly my point. With Duty Finder you are bound to take what you get.
Don't complain when some people in the party don't consent to wiping and redoing the whole fight when they are just there to complete their dailies.
Yes, I get it's nice and feels good to teach first time players but there would be a point when some would just say screw it and to get it over with.

Because wiping once or twice because you don’t know the fight doesn’t constitute a learning party

I’d love to see you pull this shtick in a savage learning party, everyone else dies to mechanics they don’t understand and just go “sorry guys guess I’m more talented than you you’ll have to wait till the encounter kills me”, you’d be out on your ass in 4 seconds flat

We're just talking about normals here. Where does this thing about savage coming from?

Circling back to OP. the screenshot provided is too blurry besides the LB3, party comp[WAR/DRK/RPR/VPR/MCH/SMN(?)/WHM/SCH(?)] and the timer to make anything clear besides something doesn't match up

1) Vali normal is only sixty minutes
2) Vali screenshot posted shows 41mins left
3) OP claims they sat there dead for 30mins

decided to just keep going and make us sit and watch and the encounter ended up taking almost 30 minutes.

4) Vali was killed with 37 minutes left

ithis was right after adds phase where i believe the boss had around 50-60% left and the clock was at 37 min left when they finally killed it

OP misrepresented and painted the two tanks in a bad light.

[Supersnow845]

Exactly my point. With Duty Finder you are bound to take what you get.
Don't complain when some people in the party don't consent to wiping and redoing the whole fight when they are just there to complete their dailies.
Yes, I get it's nice and feels good to teach first time players but there would be a point when some would just say screw it and to get it over with.




We're just talking about normals here. Where does this thing about savage coming from?

Circling back to OP. the screenshot provided is too blurry besides the LB3, party comp[WAR/DRK/RPR/VPR/MCH/SMN(?)/WHM/SCH(?)] and the timer to make anything clear besides something doesn't match up

1) Vali normal is only sixty minutes
2) Vali screenshot posted shows 41mins left
3) OP claims they sat there dead for 30mins

4) Vali was killed with 37 minutes left


OP misrepresented and painted the two tanks in a bad light.

This isn’t even about wanting to teach people. This is simply just the fact that it’s rude and shouldn’t be allowed for tanks to just ignore the rest of the party and solo the boss because they arbitrarily decide they don’t want to give others a chance when you are only surviving because you are a tank

The comment about savage wasn’t directed to you. It was simply “you shouldn’t be expected to treat normal content like savage in PF with learning parties just to avoid getting a tank who decides they want to solo the boss because they have 500% more EHP than anyone else

[TaleraRistain]

This is why Party Finders exist, you set expectations that everyone would be in agreement to not waste everyone's time.
Duty roulettes (except mentor roulette?) are there to fill bodies needed to clear content. Almost everyone there just wants their daily exp/tome/gil grind and want to be done with it.

If your argument is people are just there to complete their dailies then why are you advocating for tanks to tack time onto the instance when the party could most likely reset and clear within a fraction of that time? 7 other people want to get their exp/tome/gil grind done but they're trapped because they can't leave in combat. Maybe the solution is letting people dead in combat just leave and then the tank can have their fun alone.

[localareanetwork]

Most of the tanks that survive just survive on the basis of them having the largest health pool, not skill, and also sustain through the fight's damage because their 123 has built in healing. To say "just don't die" for other jobs that are far far squishier and have no sustain is so silly, because you can easily die as a non tank in ways that aren't your own fault

[Bobby66]

I guess the only option at this point is to DC and take a break. Somebody wants to watch you for 15mins, but it's not me.

That is within your right, you are not obligated to sit and watch the tank spend 15 min to kill a boss, just like the tank is not obligated to reset the fight.

[Supersnow845]

That is within your right, you are not obligated to sit and watch the tank spend 15 min to kill a boss, just like the tank is not obligated to reset the fight.

So following along from this logic it’s my right to just run off the edge of the map at the start of the fight with the expectation the tank won’t want to reset and so will kill the boss for me?

[LianaThorne]

That is within your right, you are not obligated to sit and watch the tank spend 15 min to kill a boss, just like the tank is not obligated to reset the fight.

Ah what a choice:

Sit there actively feeling your braincells die while watching a guy get his rocks off on soloing a boss for 15m or take a 30m penalty.

Which would you choose?

[localareanetwork]

Ah what a choice:

Sit there actively feeling your braincells die while watching a guy get his rocks off on soloing a boss for 15m or take a 30m penalty.

Which would you choose?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that person and most of the other people who play tank that enjoy this sort of thing have never actually played tank in an encounter that requires them to actually help their party members to clear.

[Pepperblue]

Hey, you should hope to get me as a tank, I suck and would probably die to mechanics anyway!

[Aurumis]

I noticed this too. From now on everytime I see a tank do this I will report them. It's just not fair.