Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[sylphlands]

you know, put aside the rubber bullet, iam still amazed how ketenramn is alived, when the scene he got ambushed and straight up "slashed effect" i though he is pretty much dead, but it turn out he just get "bonk" to unconscious.

This reveal made me laugh so hard. If I hadn't witnessed the scene of him being attacked with my own eyes I would have had no idea it even happened when we saw him again. He didn't appear injured or even shaken up, just completely unaffected. What was the point?

[SushiOishiiii]

This reveal made me laugh so hard. If I hadn't witnessed the scene of him being attacked with my own eyes I would have had no idea it even happened when we saw him again. He didn't appear injured or even shaken up, just completely unaffected. What was the point?

Think it was a JJ Abrams moment... kill everyone, but not really.

[LisseyCrowe]

This reveal made me laugh so hard. If I hadn't witnessed the scene of him being attacked with my own eyes I would have had no idea it even happened when we saw him again. He didn't appear injured or even shaken up, just completely unaffected. What was the point?

The entire time I was waiting for him to go "AHAH! THE REAL KETENRAMN WAS ASSASSINATED, I AM ACTUALLY <insert Villain>".

Like why have him not only survive, but practically downplay the whole thing and not even mention it for quite a few scenes only to go the way it did. I can't even call it a clever red herring because there's no grander mystery at play here, it's just "Sometimes, the truth is boring" I guess? It's so confusing what the writer's intent here was.

[ZXN]

you know, put aside the rubber bullet, iam still amazed how ketenramn is alived, when the scene he got ambushed and straight up "slashed effect" i though he is pretty much dead, but it turn out he just get "bonk" to unconscious.

Clearly Ketenramm was slashed in the back with a rubber sword that Zoraal Ja just has on him for very specific times like this.

[BabySneed]

The entire time I was waiting for him to go "AHAH! THE REAL KETENRAMN WAS ASSASSINATED, I AM ACTUALLY <insert Villain>".

I was thinking the exact same thing but also I just want to say that scene loading into the goofy ass main city day theme was the funniest thing ever, I just watched some guy (as far as I was aware) get brutally assassinated in his own home and it immediately cuts to the Monsters Inc theme blaring happily into my ears, I had to give myself a minute before continuing because I was laughing so hard at the tonal whiplash
PoV: You have just been murdered in cold blood in Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4DNJxG4v4

[Oizen]

Why didn't Ishgard and the Dragons just make some mixed food cuisine to end their blood war? Are they stupid???

[Voidmage]

Why didn't Ishgard and the Dragons just make some mixed food cuisine to end their blood war? Are they stupid???

Ishgard drank dragon blood.
Hraesvelgr ate his wife.

the whole thing more or less started over food.

[ReynTime]

What a great thread to read. Good to see so many people dissappointed with Wuk Lamat and Dawntral MSQ in general.

I have a lot of thoughts to post here, but there is one particular one gnawing at my mind:

Tural is like... more than twice the size of Eorzea. And so far we didn't saw ANY signs of Ascian influence in this region. Not a single note.

Through the expansions it was revealed that Ascians messed up with pretty much every beast tribe they encountered. To sow unrest, cause conflicts and set up the Source for another Rejoining.

I cannot believe that such "fertile" land as Tural with its many tribes and nations that are not aware to their danger was ignored by them. Why these two huge continents has no long lasting problems whatsoever?! (Oh, Mamool Ja problem apparently wasn't one, because Wuk solved it in 5 minutes or so)

Tural's map design is perhaps the best example of how complete shit the post-ARR field design is in terms of content and non-text lore. Tural is supposed to be massive, but exploring it doesn't feel that big thanks to Creative Studio 3's strict 6-field zones-no-more-no-less formula, and the maps are incredibly barren.

[ReynTime]

The sad thing is that I really believe Wuk could've been an interesting character with some good development and story. Unfortunately, for me personally anyway, the story presented Wuk Lamat as a "Black Hole Sue" of sorts from start to finish.

Even if, as some people say, "Dawntrail is Wuk Lamat's expansion and story", many of the situations and confrontations that occur are presented very specifically to accommodate and reward Wuk's specific actions/way of thinking, with most resulting in "perfect" resolutions and outcomes always in her favor.

As much as I love my boy Bakool Ja Ja, you're not going to convince me that after kidnapping Wuk to take her keystone, releasing Valigarmanda for literally no reason other then essentially "because I can", and literally saying that Wuk's birth father was going to be killed after Wuk loses in 1 on 1 combat against him, alongside some other basic villain things like pulling his weapons out against civilians to strike them down and constantly blocking the feat paths, that after just a few bonks on the heads with an axe, one sad story that our WoL LITERALLY says to not use as an excuse for what he's done, and ONE short heart to heart talk with Wuk, they are now friends and everyone around just goes "Okay, he's forgiven." The fact Alisaie even says "Well, maybe it's for the best. Hatred is exhausting, after all" right after along with Wuk saying all her anger just disappeared effortlessly caused me some bad whiplash at how insanely sudden the 180 was both done and resolved with an absolutely perfect outcome.

I will say though, overall, I really did enjoy Dawntrail. Once I quickly figured out early on to turn my brain off when it came to Wuk Lamat in anyway.

The reaction of every NPC and character in Dawntrail is basically this:

[ZXN]

The reaction of every NPC and character in Dawntrail is basically this:

Ahhh, the good ol "Kingdom Hearts Experience" Series by Stickman Sham. A good watch. I cannot wait for the entirety of the Post MSQ for Dawntrail to be the same as regular MSQ, or somehow even more cursed.