Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Sinstrel]

They wouldn't, if for no other reason than the genuine crushers (there are few IMO) would be distributed across all 3 teams. That said, a matchmaking algorithm would cure the hypothetical problem and make all matches more competitive.

It's not a giant leap, is it?

Gold: Players with fewer than X games and those in the bottom third of win-rate. Also acts as an on-ramp/training ground for PvP sprouts.
Platinum: The middle third of players based on win-rate with more than X games.
Crystal: High (top third) win-rate players. Thereby giving the Discord mafia what they claim to want: high-quality matches free of "leeches."

Or is the 14 PvP community sufficiently messed up we'd just get a massive outbreak of smurfing?

Are you suggesting that Square also has a technique to assess skill account-wide to evenly distribute any player with skill across all 3 grand companies so that no matter what alts we play on any data center, we wont stomp out games on a regular basis?

[Mawlzy]

Are you suggesting that Square also has a technique to assess skill account-wide to evenly distribute any player with skill across all 3 grand companies so that no matter what alts we play on any data center, we wont stomp out games on a regular basis?

I would never underestimate the ingenuity of curbstompers to ruin the mode for others. MMR is not a perfect solution, just a commonly-used one that would alleviate current issues greatly IMO. Most of us simply want competitive, interesting matches.

Edit: think I misunderstood you. Apologies. I'm not suggesting top players would be evenly distributed across the GCs by SQEX. That would be absurdly difficult. Simply that on average they will be distributed evenly (particularly if premades are removed), and be in the top tier where they'll face off against people who can play back at them. I'm not looking for total parity, that would be silly. Just a three-tier system so that those of us who are trying and somewhat competent don't have AFKers to deal with.

If I get stomped by someone who plays better than me, absolutely no problem. That is motivation to improve. But the current mix that throws all skills and playstyles together simply isn't working for anyone.

[Naizakane]

If I get stomped by someone who plays better than me, absolutely no problem. That is motivation to improve.

You absolutely would, and do, have a problem with it. Complaining and French resistance RP instead of improving, like you just said you'd be motivated to, also.

[Mawlzy]

You absolutely would, and do, have a problem with it. Complaining and French resistance RP instead of improving, like you just said you'd be motivated to, also.

Would you please not presume to tell me what I have a problem with? I have emphasized time and again my issue with the current situation is boring matches and a stale meta. I am offering suggestions to make them less boring. I'm sorry my attempts at humour apparently upset you.

As to improving, I've gone from being absolutely dreadful to typically having the best K/D/A of any WAR on the field. Sorry that doesn't conform to your misconceptions.

One of the things I've learned from this thread is that FL attracts players with a psychic ability to divine the thoughts and motivations of others, who additionally have never been wrong about anything in their lives. It's not surprising so few people engage with the mode.

Back to the shadows.

[Iglol]

Would you please not presume to tell me what I have a problem with? I have emphasized time and again my issue with the current situation is boring matches and a stale meta. I am offering suggestions to make them less boring. I'm sorry my attempts at humour apparently upset you.

As to improving, I've gone from being absolutely dreadful to typically having the best K/D/A of any WAR on the field. Sorry that doesn't conform to your misconceptions.

One of the things I've learned from this thread is that FL attracts players with a psychic ability to divine the thoughts and motivations of others, who additionally have never been wrong about anything in their lives. It's not surprising so few people engage with the mode.

Back to the shadows.

Speaking as one of the actual best K/D/A WARs, you sure you're one of those?

[Mawlzy]

Speaking as one of the actual best K/D/A WARs, you sure you're one of those?

To answer your question, I'm grateful you included the original quote, because it allows everyone to see that I never claimed to be "one of the best." What I said was I "typically have the best K/D/A of any WAR on the field." You want "typically" quantified? Greater than 50%. That isn't saying much, honestly, but I think it does indicate a degree of competence. Which was pertinent in my OP because, once again, I was told I should "git gud" when that is precisely what I am trying to do.

It's very hard for me to know how I stack up. I sometimes see WAR with stats I've never achieved. They may be exceptional players. They may be in a premade.

I will happily admit, however, that you are more skilled than me. Happy? Have a bikkit.

But let's try to keep this on topic? Specifically, if and why FL sucks rather than whether I suck?

[Iglol]

To answer your question, I'm grateful you included the original quote, because it allows everyone to see that I never claimed to be "one of the best." What I said was I "typically have the best K/D/A of any WAR on the field." You want "typically" quantified? Greater than 50%. That isn't saying much, honestly, but I think it does indicate a degree of competence. Which was pertinent in my OP because, once again, I was told I should "git gud" when that is precisely what I am trying to do.

It's very hard for me to know how I stack up. I sometimes see WAR with stats I've never achieved. They may be exceptional players. They may be in a premade.

I will happily admit, however, that you are more skilled than me. Happy? Have a bikkit.

Then you should know that you can actually stop many of those stacks running a single DRK on WAR, however I don't see you directly counter-playing them and just complaining instead. I'm really not sure what the point of this is since a lot of what you've said boils down to you not getting to play the way you want to, and what looks like a desire to punish others who play differently out of spite. Just as you get to play how you want, so do others and if they choose to play in a manner that increases both their own and their team's chances of winning, then more power to them. Either way at the end of the day, the rest of your team and especially your opponents all get a say, and what your opponents want to do can and will affect how you can play because thats just how pvp in any game works.