Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Khitsune]

PVP on this game is trash, healers that can't heal, tanks that can't tank and the mentality that the teams needs to run away from EVERYTHING. The pvp is totally unbalanced with some classes able to kill in 2 hits and others needing 20 hits to do the same. But it will be like that forever because of the attitude of the players. When we complain about something the answer is "YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT", no, I'm doing that because a PAYED for the game and i want something DECENT. And NO, its not good jus because YOSHI P. said so. And NO, its not good because you play this game since you are a child. And NO, its not good because you don't do content. ITS BAD AND THAT's REALITY.

[Router]

Can the devs remove Shatter already?

[Mawlzy]

I've always been skeptical about cheating in FL, but to those of you saying it doesn't happen, you're wrong.

I'd invite those of you who can stomach Aether/Shatter today to look out for a speed-hacking DRK. I usually attribute "funny" motion to netcode, but this character brazenly shot past me on a ramp (I was mounted). Others also saw this speed boost. There was an additional claim they were cleansing chain stuns in an impossible manner, but I didn't see that and it's harder to be sure IMO.

I'm optimistic 7.1 will bring positive changes. The only way we can protect the mode as players is to report cheats. Please do so.

[Divinemights]

I've always been skeptical about cheating in FL, but to those of you saying it doesn't happen, you're wrong.

I'd invite those of you who can stomach Aether/Shatter today to look out for a speed-hacking DRK. I usually attribute "funny" motion to netcode, but this character brazenly shot past me on a ramp (I was mounted). Others also saw this speed boost. There was an additional claim they were cleansing chain stuns in an impossible manner, but I didn't see that and it's harder to be sure IMO.

I'm optimistic 7.1 will bring positive changes. The only way we can protect the mode as players is to report cheats. Please do so.

If you are referring to two types of cheats these DK is using, yes, they do exist (Eventide hack to avoid Ninja's Seiton Tenchu and Salted Earth hack to increase the range to 20+ yeard).
The problem is the environment is too chaotic for normal players to tell the difference
No reports generated equals nothing can be done
For every 10 DKs you see, at least 3 of them are using it; especially those premade one.

[Mistress_Irika]

PVP on this game is trash, healers that can't heal, tanks that can't tank and the mentality that the teams needs to run away from EVERYTHING. The pvp is totally unbalanced with some classes able to kill in 2 hits and others needing 20 hits to do the same. But it will be like that forever because of the attitude of the players. When we complain about something the answer is "YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT", no, I'm doing that because a PAYED for the game and i want something DECENT. And NO, its not good jus because YOSHI P. said so. And NO, its not good because you play this game since you are a child. And NO, its not good because you don't do content. ITS BAD AND THAT's REALITY.

We got what we ask for. The only ones who benefit from this is the lazy folks that is totally okay with only farming and placing last...maybe I am going overboard with this, but that's just how I feel currently. You can blame those that prioritizes running to the devs for a rule change over learning the map/mode.

I've always been skeptical about cheating in FL, but to those of you saying it doesn't happen, you're wrong.

I'd invite those of you who can stomach Aether/Shatter today to look out for a speed-hacking DRK. I usually attribute "funny" motion to netcode, but this character brazenly shot past me on a ramp (I was mounted). Others also saw this speed boost. There was an additional claim they were cleansing chain stuns in an impossible manner, but I didn't see that and it's harder to be sure IMO.

I'm optimistic 7.1 will bring positive changes. The only way we can protect the mode as players is to report cheats. Please do so.

Premades are going to be dealt with before cheaters. On top of this, if you're in an environment where folks don't care about results the cheaters are going to get a pass like some of the afk people do. In that instance good luck getting a big enough group to care about reporting them. You're more likely to get them banned from CC than frontlines.

[Aishaa]

I would love for instead of people claiming things, for them to say specific names of the premades and give what exploits they are using, otherwise it all just sounds like baseless complaints. Are their videos of these "hacks" being used also would love a source. A lot of the good dark knights stream in discords and or on twitch so please if you could find a clip of someone auto evertiding or toggling on something that would be very helpful.

[Divinemights]

I would love for instead of people claiming things, for them to say specific names of the premades and give what exploits they are using, otherwise it all just sounds like baseless complaints. Are their videos of these "hacks" being used also would love a source. A lot of the good dark knights stream in discords and or on twitch so please if you could find a clip of someone auto evertiding or toggling on something that would be very helpful.

Seriously, we are in an age where people knows no shame.
A PvP grifer has gut to post in General Forum pretends his victims do not exist and claim he is innocent.
If you post evidence, the posts get removed for naming and shaming.
How are we going to post name here?

[Mawlzy]

I would love for instead of people claiming things, for them to say specific names of the premades and give what exploits they are using, otherwise it all just sounds like baseless complaints. Are their videos of these "hacks" being used also would love a source. A lot of the good dark knights stream in discords and or on twitch so please if you could find a clip of someone auto evertiding or toggling on something that would be very helpful.

Immediately after this incident I stopped by a well-known maid's stream to see if she could catch the ~!@#$, but unfortunately she was on Crystal. As others have noted, SE tends to punish those who out cheats publicly more vigorously than the cheats themselves, hence the only recourse is the report function.

FWIW I doubt any of the good DRKs leading premades are cheating. When you're smashing the par win-rate by the degree they do, there's simply no point.

[Cidel]

"Naming and shaming" is against the forum rules apparently. Hell, even that one time I forgot to blot out names when showing the scoreboard (and I wasn't even accusing anybody of cheating, and one of the people in the 8-stack premade *admitted* it in the chat window) was crossing the line and I had to redo the image with everyone else's name wiped off.

And even when somebody once brought receipts with their allegations, suddenly new, throw-away accounts spammed the thread with obscenities repeatedly until they got the intended outcome and the thread was nuked out of orbit faster than I've seen any drama-filled thread locked or deleted.

So asking for "proof" here is basically a catch-22, and I don't think reddit fares much better.