How many more times must our Living Dead get griefed?

[Tigore]

I didn't mean to say I was strong armed to not use cooldowns. What I meant to say is I was surprised that even a Savage raider friend is mentioning some troubles on a few dungeons with other healers. I would have thought the use of Afflatus Solace / Rapture with Tetragrammaton for WHM would be more known, but maybe not? Since it is a core mechanic for that juicy Afflatus Misery AoE hit. Then we have Asylum and Temperance wings. From last expansion, I did notice some WHMs never use Holy stuns as well.

The Abyssal Drain approach to increasing self sustain does sound interesting for AoE. I do admit using it on some FATEs helps a lot. Currently it is a shared 60s cooldown with Carve and Spit, so maybe a 45s cooldown? It would consequently also increase DPS a bit of course with the increased mana gains. Once I got Shadowed Vigil, the "excog" effect kept me going pretty well too. Although the enemies hit hard enough to chip down the HP, but not hard enough to completely break the TBN shield (652 ilvl from Endwalker tome gear). I still use the shield to survive, but my Darkside timer or mana pool will definitely suffer for it.

[Zairava]

If you want to bring Dark Mind and Dark Missionary into the equation, then let's go there too. Both are completely useless in dungeons. Can probably count on one hand the number of dungeon mobs in the game that deal magic autos. Dark Missionary is at least better than Dark Mind in that it's a party mit, but that it's still only really useful in raids and trials because of it being magic-only. That's 2 cooldowns we can't even use in a wall to wall pull.

I just think Dark Mind and Missionary could use a bonus 10% and 5% phys mit respectively and that would be enough.

From last expansion, I did notice some WHMs never use Holy stuns as well.

I've noticed this more in Dawntrail than any prior expansion. I chalk this up to being a "them" issue and not reading the tooltip or just way too focused on healing to use Holy for what's essentially 10 seconds of low to no damage intake.

The Abyssal Drain approach to increasing self sustain does sound interesting for AoE. I do admit using it on some FATEs helps a lot. Currently it is a shared 60s cooldown with Carve and Spit, so maybe a 45s cooldown? It would consequently also increase DPS a bit of course with the increased mana gains. Once I got Shadowed Vigil, the "excog" effect kept me going pretty well too. Although the enemies hit hard enough to chip down the HP, but not hard enough to completely break the TBN shield (652 ilvl from Endwalker tome gear). I still use the shield to survive, but my Darkside timer or mana pool will definitely suffer for it.

30s would be better since you'd have it more often and have another ability to use when not bursting, which would be a definitive improvement, if slight. Unpairing from C&S would also be nice so we have another ogcd to use which would make up for one of the two lost when they removed Plunge

If you're on the last couple mobs you generally shouldn't need TBN to survive since the healer can easily heal you through that damage intake. I mean, unless they're about to literally let you die with 2 to 3 mobs then yeah maybe TBN. Oblation and reprisal are both there if you don't need a lot of mit but want something on a shorter CD. I don't worry about the MP too much after they die since it recovers way faster outside of combat. If there's still a majority of them still alive TBN popping shouldn't be an issue unless you used it during the initial holy spam

[Lorika]

I would have thought the use of Afflatus Solace / Rapture with Tetragrammaton for WHM would be more known, but maybe not?

That's the basics.... But, depending of the tank, i also add a Divine favor.

[Tigore]

Pretty much, yeah. Although those 2 basic skills I named can be so strong together that I sometimes don't need to use Asylum or Temperance for some wall to wall pulls. Although I am using Holy stun spam at the same time with some of the enemies starting to croak when they are becoming immune to the stuns. So it is leading me to believe that some of these basic spells are not being used if a few other healers are having troubles keeping up a Savage Raiding tank.