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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    My only response to this, is that as discussed in this thread there have been successful voice actors who have taken on roles of the opposite gender and had great performances.

    I'd hate to generalize Sena's limited range to all trans actors, some of whom may have a larger range than Sena. There are also many CIS actors who have limited range and can't handle yelling or certain voice ranges.

    I think range should be part of the audition process if it's needed for the role. For Wuk Lamat, which has scenes of yelling, delivering speeches from a balcony requiring a projected voice, and extreme emotional anguish - range is important and needed to be tested at the audition phase.
    I'm not gonna deny that. My favorite JP voice actress is Romi Park, who is known for often voicing young men such as Edward Elric in FMA, or Hitsugaya in Bleach. She has a husky voice naturally, which works really well when she project her voice in a certain way to match those characters.

    As a woman with a deeper voice, I like her a lot for what she's capable of doing.

    But also, Romi Park is rarely cast to play adult men if at all (I believe that happened once with a character who doesn't have a very well defined appearance).

    And I agree, range should be part of the auditions, but clearly, they missed the mark, because the limitations were clear, very clear. If it was clear for us "common folk", then where does that put the one who hired her?

    Still, my question stands, because the bar of what limitations are pointed keeps being switched, and whenever something it's pointed out, the finger pointing begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post

    Still, my question stands, because the bar of what limitations are pointed keeps being switched, and whenever something it's pointed out, the finger pointing begins.
    I wanted to say that I am in complete agreement with you. Sena posted herself about her own limitations, and could not deliver the range needed for this role. It seems completely foreseeable by Sena and the casting director.

    I can't really fault a struggling voice actor who also posted possibly needing to go work at Starbucks or whatever due to not making it in this field for taking such a big role. If she pulled it off, it would have been career-defining in a good way.

    I'd just hate to lose some posters here to possible reports of transphobia. Some of the comments from others aren't really needed to discuss the performance, but could risk being able to post here which would be a shame.

    I've seen some great people banned from these forums over the years, several of whom I still miss interacting with here. And I don't really wish that on anyone who posts in good faith just because they have an unpopular opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I wanted to say that I am in complete agreement with you. Sena posted herself about her own limitations, and could not deliver the range needed for this role. It seems completely foreseeable by Sena and the casting director.

    I can't really fault a struggling voice actor who also posted possibly needing to go work at Starbucks or whatever due to not making it in this field for taking such a big role. If she pulled it off, it would have been career-defining in a good way.

    I'd just hate to lose some posters here to possible reports of transphobia. Some of the comments from others aren't really needed to discuss the performance, but could risk being able to post here which would be a shame.

    I've seen some great people banned from these forums over the years, several of whom I still miss interacting with here. And I don't really wish that on anyone who posts in good faith just because they have an unpopular opinion.
    I'll give that much that is not her fault but of those who cast her.

    The direction was abysmal as well. One of the most blatant examples of this to me is that there's like three or four different pronunciations for Tuliyollal.

    I've played the MSQ in japanese myself as the weeb I am, but I've been watching a friend play through it in english and really, it's been a struggle. In JP Poochie is just comes off as the generic loud shonen protag which is not great, but in English, the combo of bad character writing plus the voice it's been difficult to even stomach it and brings back flashbacks of the awful latin american dubs I grew up with. I find that really sad because, even if I'm a weeb and if there's an option between subs of dubs, I'll always go subs and yet, since Heavensward, XIV has become one of the few things I didn't mind to listen to in english and thought had a very solid cast (the other being the Nier series).

    The ball has not just been dropped, it reached enough speed to pierce through the ground.

    Regardless of my personal stance on some things, some people are clearly trying to get the raise out of others, and then there those willing to take the bait to feed their sense of righteousness.

    In the end, neither side helps with anything at all
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