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  1. #1191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petroglyph View Post
    nah the actual transphobia here is wild though.

    we know very well hating Wuk's English VA isn't transphobic, but since her tweets were dug up (admittedly very groaty tweets), people that obviously have a beef with LGBT (mostly T) have taken this as an opportunity to not very cleverly express their feelings toward that group, but hide behind the fact that yes, Sena is pretty awful.

    I mean actual conservative anti-trans forum signatures? Asking "do lgbt race change irl now?" lol I said, lmao

    Let's please just trash her performance and awful fake accent
    There is as far as I read no transphobia here.

    The VA is bad in the role, a bad person overall... Just flatout not Maincharakter-material.
    And the reason why people are even more annoyed is that people obv defend the VA because the VA is a T,
    while they also throw the classic labels at people for pointing out how awefull the VA is.

    Should be easily understandable. *Shrug*
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  2. #1192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolingian View Post
    Snip.
    Well said.
    But I will point out that the reason people are accusing Sena of being a nepo-hire is that she has been friends with Kate, who is now the localization lead, since before the casting, as evidenced by being mutuals on twitter and frequently interacting.
    VDs and localization leads hiring people they know is not an uncommon thing, but when they get hired over people more fitting/deserving of the role (like an actual latina) then obviously people are going to shed more light on it.
    I will agree that the primary fault lies in the voice direction.
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  3. #1193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isseki View Post
    There is as far as I read no transphobia here.
    That's because transphobic posts get reported and eventually deleted (there were A LOT in this threads early days to the point where this thread was hidden as a result. Even the tags were pretty bad, too). There were a couple posted around page 100 or so with a disappointing amount of likes (~20-30).

    Anyway, criticism is fine, but don't believe that you're in the majority in hating the VA when really you could just be a third. 1/3 hates, 1/3 loves and 1/3 indifferent. Don't go out of your way to personally attack the VA just because of some tweets as that just comes off as looking for a reason to hate her, the person and not their performance which is probably why some people may make assumptions. Don't bring "DEI hire" into this as it just makes you sound like a grifter rage-bait conspiracy theorist. Just criticise the voice (and story if you so choose), call out the posts that actually are being transphobic so those giving the thread a cursory glance at those moments don't think you're complicit with it and you're gucci in my eyes. SE will most likely NOT change Wuk Lamat's VA just because of this thread (because again, most likely just a third of the XIV population), since it has a handful of the same people posting in it such as myself, yourself and so forth.
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  4. #1194
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    I personally didn't mind her VA at all. Only criticism I have was that screams and yells sounded a bit muffled. I suppose that is because she is MtF trans, so probably had trouble hitting higher volume, while keeping a feminine pitch and tone. Other than that, I had no problems with her voice.
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  5. #1195
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    Hmmm does Sena have some white hispanic heritage? Isn't "latino/latina" usually more of a cultural demonym? (According to the US definition it is)
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    Last edited by AkaeiNox; 07-14-2024 at 01:13 PM.

  6. #1196
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    She was born in the US but her parents, or at the very least one parent IIRC are Puerto Rican
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  7. #1197
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    I miss earlier today when I didn't realize there were people who disliked the voiceover.
    I'm usually really picky with VO so this took me by surprise - like I can't listen to Genshin in EN it makes my skin crawl lol.

    But I enjoyed Dawntrail the whole way through. There were some weak links for me (mostly nameless crowd NPCs) but Wuk Lamat was not one of them.
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  8. #1198
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaeiNox View Post
    Hmmm does Sena have some white hispanic heritage? Isn't "latino/latina" usually more of a cultural demonym? (According to the US definition it is)
    She describes herself as being from "an old kentucky home", that she's "PR on her dad's side", and she's described herself as white in the past. She doesn't speak spanish, either. Her identity doesn't matter with regards to her performance except that she's absolutely just not faking the accent well, but I think it is worthwhile mentioning that people are trying to give her points for being puerto rican (as in some people think she's FROM puerto rico), but she's really just an american with a parent or grandparent from the old country. I really don't want to imply callous or cruel intent, just clarify, since others have brought it up.. ^^;;
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    Last edited by Petroglyph; 07-14-2024 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petroglyph View Post
    She describes herself as being from "an old kentucky home", that she's "PR on her dad's side", and she's described herself as white in the past. She doesn't speak spanish, either. Her identity doesn't matter with regards to her performance except that she's absolutely just not faking the accent well, but I think it is worthwhile mentioning that people are trying to give her points for being puerto rican (as in some people think she's FROM puerto rico), but she's really just an american with a parent or grandparent from the old country. I really don't want to imply callous or cruel intent, just clarify, since others have brought it up.. ^^;;
    That's the disingenuous part for me, in light of recent "all of Dawntrail characters have Latino/Indigenous voice actors" posts. Certainly when she is the one voicing what is objectively the main character of Dawntrail. Pair that with past tweets claiming other identities, it gives pause to think about the professionalism and intents of this person.

    I'm from Europe and have very mixed heritage, but I'm not going to claim to be Chinese because my great grandmother was born and raised there. I have no ties to Chinese culture or identity other than by distant blood and appreciation of rice, so why would I get to claim I do and parade it as some kind of victory?
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    Last edited by RabendaShin; 07-14-2024 at 05:04 PM. Reason: Missed a word or two

  10. #1200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petroglyph View Post
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    I assume her being unable to speak Spanish might be an issue for a lot of people from a representation perspective. (Too being from Québec we are also very attached to the french language so I can relate in a way)
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