Thancred's new face

[Rueby]

doesn't look like a different person tbh. overall it's barely noticeable, and doesn't look any worse. Id say it's even much better, than the fish glass eyed look from before.

there's people I know IRL that change more, after a few months, in regards to facial structure, after losing and gaining weight/muscle mass.

That's crazy, do they get more philtrums they never had and nose/lip jobs from gaining weight too?

[noumen0nn]

It's not about what YOU think, it's about changing a character's features for no reason.
He looks like a different person. Unless they tell me Thancred had plastic surgery between patches, this shouldn't happen.

It makes me happy to know that LizArd is on our side with this whole thing

[chizLemons]

doesn't look like a different person tbh. overall it's barely noticeable, and doesn't look any worse. Id say it's even much better, than the fish glass eyed look from before.

there's people I know IRL that change more, after a few months, in regards to facial structure, after losing and gaining weight/muscle mass.

His lip and nose shape are very different. It's not because you don't notice it as carefully as other people that it's not there. You're also focusing way too much on how the eyes are reflecting light - which changed for all characters, but appear to be ignoring his actual facial features. Try this: cover his eyes with your hands, and focus on the lip shape on the example pictures above. It's noticeably different. Again, your personal opinion on looking "better or worse" doesn't matter. It's making him look different than what he used to be for no reason, and less unique (now you actually can recreate him with the character creator, while before it wasn't possible).

[noumen0nn]

Anyway, I wouldn't put too much effort into convincing the "it's fine" crowd. Keep posting specific, itemized feedback that the devs can work with; they're the ones who stated their aim was to avoid drastic changes to character looks and they're the ones who can take what we point out and do something about it

[Daralii]

doesn't look like a different person tbh. overall it's barely noticeable, and doesn't look any worse. Id say it's even much better, than the fish glass eyed look from before.

there's people I know IRL that change more, after a few months, in regards to facial structure, after losing and gaining weight/muscle mass.

The combination of the larger iris, smaller pupil, more subdued light reflection, and darker sclera make his eyes look more dead than before. His face as a whole looks disjointed because they went for more realism in some areas while keeping the more stylized look in others.

[AlessaImpera]

I see, I probably do focus too much on the eyes. That being said, weren't the facial features of his character, that he had previously, also standardized to how his race looked before the update? Or did he have a unique face, unlike any other Hyur? It would look odd, if he was the only male hyur, that was still low-res in terms of textures and he would look out of place next to other members of his race, if he remained unchanged, or?

[Turethir]

I see, I probably do focus too much on the eyes. That being said, weren't the facial features of his race, that he had previously, also standardized to how his race looked before the update? Or did he have a unique face, unlike any other Hyur? It would look odd, if he was the only male hyur, that was still low-res in terms of textures and he would look out of place next to other members of his race, if he remained unchanged, or?

Thancred's HW and SHB looks have always had a custom face which you can't recreate with the character creator - his HW model in-game is still the old one, even in 7.0, and genuinely looks fine. Here's a screenshot I took in game just now - he's had the dynamic lighting in his eyes added, so won't look out of place, but he looks fine against other characters.



I think the same could easily be done for his SHB model and he'd look perfectly okay.

[SiriuslyEmily]

Iirc he did have unique facial feature combos, it’s not possible afaik to make his face exactly in the character creator as it looks (used to look) in the game—and if I’m remembering right it was his mouth shape that was one of the unique features for him. You can get close but not exact. His new face feels like someone tried to replicate him in CC and couldn’t get it right

[AlessaImpera]

I see, good to know.

[emilyhall205]

Absolutely agree! When I was playing through the expac I thought there was something off - especially with his eyes and his smirk - and seeing the comparisons between pre-DT and DT is really jarring. I thought his pre-DT face was really charming, and I liked that he had a unique face. Now he just looks...off. He doesn't look like Thancred. The other Scions look really good, so I'm not sure what went wrong with Thancred or why they felt they needed to change him so much. I'm hoping they fix him!