Thancred's new face

[sylphlands]

God, I thought I was crazy for feeling like his face had changed more than anyone! His eyes weird me out, I can't explain it...and his nose got smaller which took some charm out of his design. Is it just a Hyur issue?? I feel like no one else had their actual face bones change this much.

[AlessaImpera]

Here are some good comparisons (thank you to MicaelaWaters_T on Twitter). Most of it is the lips, but the nose has also been significantly changed.

Please bring back his old model! He looked fine as he was!

literally looks the same lmao, but with better looking and less glassy eyes.

[SiriuslyEmily]

Agree, I miss his old look. And his mouth is especially noticeable when he smiles or smirks which is often! No other Scion is this noticeably different and I struggle to see why they felt the need to smooth out his unique features when he looked perfectly fine (and perfectly himself) for over a decade. I hope they’ll at least update his mouth shape.

[Turethir]

literally looks the same lmao, but with better looking and less glassy eyes.

I'm sorry, but he really doesn't look the same! Here's a GIF; you can clearly see the differences in lip shape, nose shape, and even changes to the eyes. The lips are the biggest thing, I think.

[Keumjo]

I'm sorry, but he really doesn't look the same! Here's a GIF; you can clearly see the differences in lip shape, nose shape, and even changes to the eyes. The lips are the biggest thing, I think.

They really hate lips with this graphics update. The biggest downer for me has been how destroyed lips have been. Half my characters, not even with the fullest lip options, have fish lips. So many faces look like they got horrible lip fillers and lost definition to lip shapes and mouth corners. The lighting makes it look like their holding their breath with their cheeks out. I hate it and hope they fix it.

[mouse_marple]

I'm glad you made this thread. I've been thinking about how best to bring this up. I'm a major Thancred enjoyer so I am probably too sensitive to the changes, but I think they are noticeable. I do like the idea of making 5.0--Thancred look a little older. I think that is a good idea that matches the story. However, I think the change from ARR--SHB+ is too drastic now. In some lighting and at some angles, 7.0 Thancred looks alright, but at times he looks really different. Here is a comparison taken from a cutscene in an SHB questline ("Dirty Jobs" I think was the title or close to it).



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This side-by side makes the differences very obvious. His mouth just does not express in the same way any more.

Another comparison (Endwalker opening cutscene) where he is facing the camera more directly:



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If I had to list the most serious issues:

1) mouth
2) skin texture
3) eyes
4) cheeks

I think the skin texture issue is a problem for most male midlander right now. It creates this blotchy/acne like appearance that wasn't there before.

Do we have to report these things as bugs to hope for change?

[Rainnea]

I miss old Thancred face so much. His old face had so much character and dimension and now it just looks flat. He looks like a completely different character.

[mouse_marple]

This last comparison really highlights the issue. His upper lip is too thin now and the corners of his mouth look so different on most expressions. His eyes express very differently now too. These changes are subtle but add up to something pretty significant.

[Kiet]

The mouths of all characters got downgraded but Thancred and Cirina got destroyed. Cirina is completely unrecognizable. I'm scared to look at HW Minfilia now after what someone said about her.

[Gortys]

literally looks the same lmao, but with better looking and less glassy eyes.

He basically had RBF before (or RDF for a guy?) and now he's somewhat smiling all the time due to his eye and lip shape. He was a gruff and not overly happy scion before due to his past. It fit his character. This constant "smile" he now has is just as inappropriate as that song.