Please don't put Wuk Lamat in the patches

[Raven2014]

When you watch a movie based on a book, and the characters you love from the book are acting differently, would you start thinking the character is the problem, or the movie?

You're saying something completely different. If a fictional character exists in two different media, they are considered different character who came from one source material.

I would say that iteration of the character suck, because that particular writer sucks. This is not something news, happens all the time with Marvel/DC characters and their gazillion different adaptation from different authors. People say stuffs like Bill Finger's batman is great, or Jeb's Batman is average, most don't look at them as one or the same Batman.

Oh, another example. Alphinaud. A lot of people couldn't stand him in ARR because he was so arrogant and annoying, but then other writers took the lead, and now they managed to make him grow and change a lot of people's opinions on him. The solution wasn't to just get rid of him, was to write him better.

Not a good example I'm afraid. ARR's Alphinaud was arrogant and annoying has nothing to good or bad writing, it was because he's meant to be that way. Even if Ishakawa herself was his writer in ARR, I doubt his overall personality would have changed much. HW's Alphinaud exist because ARR's Alphinaud was set up to fail ... on purpose. He grow in HW because he has room to grow after ARR threw him all the way to the bottom, samething can't say about our current resident orange cat.

Also are you conflating between character's personality and quality of writing here? Not every character are meant to be love, and some will be meant to annoy you. A great character doesn't neccessary have to be a goodie two shoes or a fluffy anime cheese cake. A great character is one that manage to provoke the intended reaction from the players. I'm 99% sure ARR's Alphinaud is meant to appear arrogant and snotty, and he's meant to appear as the perfect cringy and annoying young lord, so the fact he managed to get that exact reaction from the players meant he was a great character.

With Wuk Lamat, on one hand she's also presented in a somewhat similar archetype (good personality, naive, idealistic). But on the other hand unlike Alphinaud who was being setting up fail and annoy you, WL was set up to success and be loved by the players. The fact she provoke the exact opposite reaction meant she's a bad character - not in a moral sense, but in the writing sense.

You both really are arguing the same direction at the end of the day. Put aside the split hairs.

Maybe we are maybe not. But I'm always up to enjoy a well meaning discussion. Feel free not to join if you don't like, but not everyone participate in a debate because they have to be right.