Are we destroying "our own" game?

[Striker44]

To to be perfectly blunt, the game really dropped the ball a few times. Why are we doing a "cooking contest" but not actually doing the cooking, if our WoL is already a level 90 Culinarian. It's stuff like this that makes me shake my head and ask why crafting jobs are completely missing from the MSQ of the game. If you have the right crafter, instead of playing fetch quest, why not just craft the thing needed on the spot? Why not have a botanist actually "gather" materials.

Just gonna jump in on this particular comment. It's because the MSQ has to be accessible to anyone regardless of whether they've leveled crafters or gatherers or not. Those jobs are "completely missing" from the MSQ because they're optional, and the MSQ by its nature can only include required things (consider how they made the previously-optional Crystal Tower series mandatory when it became tied into the MSQ in ShB). It's also why you can do certain side quests like Unukalhai's, but he's not going to appear in the MSQ even in places where it might "make sense" because not everyone is required to have met him. To be perfectly blunt, the dev's approach makes sense here and I don't feel drops any proverbial ball.

[Isala]

Just gonna jump in on this particular comment. It's because the MSQ has to be accessible to anyone regardless of whether they've leveled crafters or gatherers or not. Those jobs are "completely missing" from the MSQ because they're optional, and the MSQ by its nature can only include required things (consider how they made the previously-optional Crystal Tower series mandatory when it became tied into the MSQ in ShB). It's also why you can do certain side quests like Unukalhai's, but he's not going to appear in the MSQ even in places where it might "make sense" because not everyone is required to have met him. To be perfectly blunt, the dev's approach makes sense here and I don't feel drops any proverbial ball.

The part you missed, is that literally any other expansion, we'd be "cooking", in that we'd have to get the items, dump them in the pot, hand them to an NPC, interact with a handful of things, to "participate". Just like the stupid cutscene on the train, where we could have easily been a participant in shooting down the enemies. They literally have the technology in the Saucer. Instead, we just do... Nothing. We don't even get to watch the cooking happen. It fades to black, just like the stupid Alpaca quest.

[Kes13a]

The part you missed, is that literally any other expansion, we'd be "cooking", in that we'd have to get the items, dump them in the pot, hand them to an NPC, interact with a handful of things, to "participate". Just like the stupid cutscene on the train, where we could have easily been a participant in shooting down the enemies. They literally have the technology in the Saucer. Instead, we just do... Nothing. We don't even get to watch the cooking happen. It fades to black, just like the stupid Alpaca quest.

this... so much this. it would have been awesome if we could have joined in on the train and actually SHOT AT THINGS. but then, I suppose this can be excused for the "accessibility" rant because people are too incompetent at high level in a VIDEO GAME to be able to hit anything.

not to mention, they could have given a choice to assist with cooking, with a good or bad outcome, if you were a culinarian, it could have enhanced it one way, if you werent, could have added a "surprising taste" since all that was required was learning the local customs. honestly, the people pressing for "accessibility" clearly cant see any way it could be done properly that actually allows everyone to still do it while making the story better.

[KisaiTenshi]

this... so much this. it would have been awesome if we could have joined in on the train and actually SHOT AT THINGS. but then, I suppose this can be excused for the "accessibility" rant because people are too incompetent at high level in a VIDEO GAME to be able to hit anything.

not to mention, they could have given a choice to assist with cooking, with a good or bad outcome, if you were a culinarian, it could have enhanced it one way, if you werent, could have added a "surprising taste" since all that was required was learning the local customs. honestly, the people pressing for "accessibility" clearly cant see any way it could be done properly that actually allows everyone to still do it while making the story better.

Considering we have "Trusts" for multiplayer content, just stick a "trust" system in place with three options:

"I want to do this minigame (Cul LV 90 required)"
"I want (NPC name) to do this minigame for me"
"I want (NPC name) to do this minigame (RP)" (Normal/Easy)

Problem solved. Then just write the story reflecting how you both did it. This would at least offer the OPTION to do it, and not just fade to black.

Same with the train in DT, could we not... sit in a gunner seat and fire at targets or something? Like there is an entire minigame in the golden saucer that does this.

[Kes13a]

Considering we have "Trusts" for multiplayer content, just stick a "trust" system in place with three options:

"I want to do this minigame (Cul LV 90 required)"
"I want (NPC name) to do this minigame for me"
"I want (NPC name) to do this minigame (RP)" (Normal/Easy)

Problem solved. Then just write the story reflecting how you both did it. This would at least offer the OPTION to do it, and not just fade to black.

Same with the train in DT, could we not... sit in a gunner seat and fire at targets or something? Like there is an entire minigame in the golden saucer that does this.

yeah, MAJOR lost opportunity there in my opinion...