Are we destroying "our own" game?

[Akari-skts]

Browsing through the forum here and watching Youtube videos I clearly see how people seem super unhappy with the new Expansion.
Playing the game for myself and also in my fc and social groups I did not experience that feedback for quite a while.
I never checked this froum in the past and just came here recently to look for the "community voice" but.. is it really that bad? Are people that mad about DT or was it always like that in the forum? Maybe someone that observed the forum for a few years can tell me.

I personally think DT is fine story wise.. sure it may not be peak epic but I feel like it is quite good. I was entertained especcially for the last part of it.

The content imo is great. It is more entertaining than in the past and we now even can wipe here and there, which is often funny. People are saying it is too hard but idk isnt it exciting to have a look at the boss while doing roulettes? (talking about dungeons)

For the raids it is kind of the same. I dont feel like they are particulary harder than - for example - ShB Normal Raids?

Are here any people that actually enjoy the game? And if not.. where are they? I've heard player counts are looking good, and I tbh can imagine why.

It makes me kind of sad hearing all that stuff about "dungeons too hard for me" "raids too easy for me" "story is bad" "bring back stormblood", I have the feeling people are more and more driven into the mindset "Well if everyone says it is bad.. then it must be bad!" until they actually feel that way.

[Isala]

Can't speak for the rest of everyone else, but the only reason I'm posting here is because I hit a point with DT where I was like "This is absolutely dog water! Surely I'm not the only one that feels this way." And sure enough, people seem to agree that DT is the worst expansion we've ever had.

[Cyanamists]

Story bad, content pretty good. Im on the boat of -5 out of 10 on story only because it dragged on for way too long. You can read plenty of grievances about furry Naruto here so I won't go into why, content is maybe 6/10 so far, I hope it goes higher with savage release. Most of the mechanics aren't new but I'm really hoping they keep up the changes with fight arena design. Even as simple as "haha! It's a square but turned 90 degrees" feels like a breath of fresh air from EW. The only real thing I dislike is the nonsense hit boxes of that first dungeon boss + m2 hearts but I guess that's just a skill issue.

Also, the ones complaining about content being hard are forced to look at their screen instead of their phones/netflix. I'm suspecting once they can fly back to the moon, most of that will stop since they'll be too busy doing other things.

[Lak14]

DT is the first expansion forced me to skip cutscene, i can't stand woke lamat voice and her ugly smooth baby face.

[cutestfox]

Can't speak for the rest of everyone else, but the only reason I'm posting here is because I hit a point with DT where I was like "This is absolutely dog water! Surely I'm not the only one that feels this way." And sure enough, people seem to agree that DT is the worst expansion we've ever had.

Yep. I used to proudly go on about how I'm above posting on the forums and I've never had to come here since the game came out
So much for that!

[Kaurhz]

Story was not so great, but can still go in a great direction.

Map designs are the best they have ever been for me.

Combat has been exciting for me, and I have loved every second of playing Viper.

I think a rough launch is fine, but what ultimately matters is the rest of the expansion. They could have the best story in the universe, but none of this matters if people aren't given an excuse to invest in the game long-term, and it is the future content, both higher difficulties and side-content such as exploration which will really give the staying power, and IMO it is on this that the expansion should be judged.

[TheBlueRogue]

I usually enjoy the story in this game, but DT made me into a story skipper. Entire expansion can be summed up as WOL babysits jar jar banks.

[NoOneofConsequence]

Game seems fine. Don't let yourself doubt your enjoyment. If you don't like something, don't like it. If you like it, like it.

[chizLemons]

I was very happy with the game up until now and had no reason to come here. I'm mostly story-focused. I also enjoy a lot of other content, but I'm not super invested in the combat changes to comment on it, so everything was good to me until the end of 6.0.
I wasn't happy with the patches, but it wasn't enough to make me come here to talk about it - I expected it to be a test for new writers, and the expansion would have more experienced people in charge. YoshiP would often answer interviews and talk about the changes they were working on regarding gameplay and combat, so that was reassuring, and they seem to have kept their promise.

Now I'm posting here regularly to complain because I needed to get it out of my system somewhere and have the small hope of the devs listening to the forums. I'm very unhappy with the story, so much so that I didn't even feel like playing the game after finishing the MSQ until the raids came out, but I still want it to improve. Me complaining and voicing my opinion is my way of showing that I still care a lot, and I hope they fix this.

For me it really IS that bad, because the writing is poor and badly made. The story ideas themselves are not the main issue, but the way they're written is: characters not acting like themselves, their motivations not aligning with their actions, a lot of plot holes, things being told and not shown and in general being explained and solved like a children's story. A lot of lessons they should've learned in past expansions were completely thrown away, replaced by trying to mimic big moments in past expansions while not understanding why those big moments actually worked. It's very amauterish, especially for a 10-year-old game where they should've known better by now.

[MeanDragon]

I am enjoying it immensely. The only thing I don't like is they took my DRG dive away But the more I think about it, I like the weird Dragon soul thing they are going for, so it isn't that bad. I guess.

I like that we aren't the center of attention and doing all of the work. I also like the parts where the bad guys don't know who I am and I get to be cocky. Wuk's energy is great.

But I am scared to even post this, cuz all the haters.