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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Tanks role is to keep agro, rotate their mitigation spells and do as much dps as they can.

    Not a tank main, but when I heal tanks this is what I expect from my tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Tanks role is to keep agro, rotate their mitigation spells and do as much dps as they can.

    Not a tank main, but when I heal tanks this is what I expect from my tanks.
    Most tanks are not doing mitigations other than getting hit or tank buster.. and they can get away with it with no problem

    Tank stance is auto aggro generation there is not such a thing called aggro management
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Most tanks are not doing mitigations other than getting hit or tank buster.. and they can get away with it with no problem

    Tank stance is auto aggro generation there is not such a thing called aggro management
    DPS not managing their rotation can get away with it.
    Healers poorly managing their healing tools can get away with it.

    Basic game can be cleared by pressing 1.

    Your point is...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    DPS not managing their rotation can get away with it.
    Healers poorly managing their healing tools can get away with it.

    Basic game can be cleared by pressing 1.

    Your point is...?
    Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

    If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

    But tanks I don't see any thing to manage
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    Gyalva Guillen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

    If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

    But tanks I don't see any thing to manage
    I don't think we've played the same savage.

    Aside from enrage, there are also these things called:

    Tankbusters
    Tankswaps
    Very damaging raidwide AoEs

    Trust me, all party die too, if you don't have a tank or have a tank that don't mitigate these correctly

    What is the point you're trying to make?
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    Asklepiooze Gazel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

    If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

    But tanks I don't see any thing to manage
    If you don't see anything to manage with tanks despite doing savage, maybe it's time to accept that tank as a role in ffxiv doesn't fit your need and go play other roles.
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    転化の「回復魔法20%上昇」を「回復効果20%上昇」にしてくださいお願いします!
    Please change the "increases healing magic potency by 20%" of Dissipation into "increases HP recovery via healing actions by 20%"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

    If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

    But tanks I don't see any thing to manage
    Go ahead, play savage without managing your mitigation or DPS and we'll see the result.
    DPS from everyone is very important in savage/ultimate, if you experimented it, you would be aware of it.
    Tank DPS is roughly 70~80% of a melee DPS, it's extremely valuable. If you can clear with a tank that doesn't DPS it means your group is already overgeared.

    You should also be aware that in savage, damage taken from busters and raid wide are above player HP, there's many of them you absolutely can't survive without tank mitigation.

    Be sure that if tank had "nothing to manage" you would see 1 tank and 5 DPS or 6 DPS in savage content.
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

    If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

    But tanks I don't see any thing to manage
    funny to say this when you have so many grey parses
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    funny to say this when you have so many grey parses
    changing the subject will not change the fact

    tank job is the easiest because there is actually nothing to manage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    changing the subject will not change the fact

    tank job is the easiest because there is actually nothing to manage
    People already answered your question about what tanks have to manage. If you only play tanks in normal mode, don't be surprised there's nothing to manage.
    But go ahead, tell us how it's easy and how strong you are when casting 0 reprisal and 3 TBNs.

    I too, can say driving is easy if I only drive at 10 Km/h.

    Put your money where your mouth is and show us how "easy" it is.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 07-27-2024 at 12:05 AM.

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