What to manage as a tank?

[CKNovel]

sadly using savage and ultimate as exemple isn't a good way of doing thing at all but hey it's how thing how but I do agree that aggro management should be added back

You can go in extreme and not press your buttons to see the result.
Though you're quite likely to be carried by your team but the same can happen for DPS and Healer if they don't do their role.

You can't take dungeons or normal mode as example as you can clear them only using 1 button for each player.

IMO tanks should have something to manage.. I don't have idea now but there is something missing

I believe 3 posts already perfectly answered your question.

[Payadopa]

Tanks role is to keep agro,

There is no aggro management in XIV anymore. If if happens by accident it gets patched out.

[Tunda]

There is no aggro management in XIV anymore. If if happens by accident it gets patched out.

I don't think aggro management should be back

It is something for the past we dint need it

I may have an idea of adding rage management which is different in execution

It is like doing mini games with the boss to have extra damage or reduce boss defence or knockout boss

It is like how thancred weaken the lion from ShB trailer

[Kaixern]

I don't think aggro management should be back

It is something for the past we dint need it

I may have an idea of adding rage management which is different in execution

It is like doing mini games with the boss to have extra damage or reduce boss defence or knockout boss

It is like how thancred weaken the lion from ShB trailer

A bit like the defiance bar in GW2? (maybe i misunderstood)

[Tunda]

A bit like the defiance bar in GW2? (maybe i misunderstood)

I do not play GW2 so I don't know

[Rithy255]

Tank has to manage both on easy mode.
Tank has party responsibilities, in keeping itself alive by using their own cooldowns, being able to clutch save on people and provide ride wide mitigations/healing.
They also have a DPS rotation, which is a easy mode version of a DPS rotation.


Personally I wish they leaned into both a bit more, tanks should feel like more dynamic supportive DPS, Who hold aggro Imo, as I doubt we will get "aggro management & Stances" I think having a fun rotation and ways to support the group is the best direction for tanks.

[Karkarov]

I find this thread hilarious. I have to manage my mits quite closely in normal dungeons, this is the one mmo where 50% + of the healers won't cast a healing spell unless it is on pain of death or I am at like 30% or less HP. If I didn't use mits in most dungeons I am 100% sure I would probably die every other pull.

[Kaixern]

I know there is a lot to do whenever it is in dungeon or in raids
This post may be serious, or a rant, or a bait, who knows in this forum.
But there is just one thing i might ask.

Could we maybe have less :
"Boss auto teleports in the middle of the arena every 15/20 seconds"
And more of that positioning job coming from the tank?

(i mean positionning, not just moving to evade AOE or doing mechanic which is still nice)
(maybe nor the right MMO to ask, or the fight design doesn't allow it, or any other reason, but the "auto teleport" just feels ankward to witness every time for me even after all these years)

[Payadopa]

IMO tanks should have something to manage.. I don't have idea now but there is something missing

I play tank in savage mainly warrior because it is the best tank in the game

I really don't have to manage anything just press any mitigation when tank buster and if I was nice I do party mitigation

That's it

Can't say I agree. Enmity management meant you could potentially lose it. That means healers had to actually do something if a stray claw hit a DPS. Positioning was also removed along with different AoE shapes.

All SE does is remove things without adding anything meaningful to it.

Enmity was and still is needed as long as they don't give us anything in return. Using tank stance and never lose aggro is just pathetic in an MMO.

[Tunda]

Can't say I agree. Enmity management meant you could potentially lose it. That means healers had to actually do something if a stray claw hit a DPS. Positioning was also removed along with different AoE shapes.

All SE does is remove things without adding anything meaningful to it.

Enmity was and still is needed as long as they don't give us anything in return. Using tank stance and never lose aggro is just pathetic in an MMO.

I believe tank should have Enmity stance but... BIG but!!

there should be phases tank loses the enmity for example "Rage mechanic"

where boss override and start aggro dps based on specific criteria..

tank has to knockout boss to remove rage ability

if tank do poor performance boss will attack hard hitting AOE till people to 130% of party HP.. if healers can't do it save it its a wipe

this is example of how to give tank value not just a punching bag