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  1. #411
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    If you can't do the penta in Anamnesis, you're a bad tank.

    It's not even a hard penta like the one at the start of Mt Gulg. It hits like a wet noodle
    Good job skipping over the sprout healer mentioned in the post. I'd love to see you pull off that penta as a GNB with a non-efficient healer and a DPS that's single targeting. Quadra and Penta pulls you don't solo carry even with invul use.
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  2. #412
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ampheni View Post
    unless healer can't keep up, then MAYBE i might consider scaling back a bit.
    And this is the issue. Half of the people in this thread think you're a trash tank if you can't handle any pull size with any healer/dps skill level inside of your party. That a DPS should be able to pull anything they want on top of you regardless of the party situation because you should be able to handle it. It's been apparent to me half of these people don't even tank seriously and likely run the easiest dungeons possible with their FC and static instead of dealing with pugs in the harder situations.
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  3. #413
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    God forbid we test our limits as a party, wipe, and slow down after.

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  4. #414
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    I am the kind of tank that will default to Wall-to-Wall unless I see my healer struggling (in which case I will ask if they'd like smaller pulls after the first one),

    The one case I have experienced that really was out there though was when it was the healer in a certain ARR leveling dungeon (when tanks do not self-sustain yet) who was constantly running away and ahead to pull more and more without ever healing me or the dps even though we were struggling and dying under the load we already had.

    then your obligation as a tank to not let the entire rest of the party die for it starts to outweigh your obligation to always pick up all the enmity, and you can say it is justified to let a real problem player just deal with the problem of his own creation. If you can't protect all the lives, you aim to protect the most.
    Thank you.
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  5. #415
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    God forbid we test our limits as a party, wipe, and slow down after.

    Did you ask your healer and tank if they were comfortable testing their limits?
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  6. #416
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObscuraFi View Post
    Did you ask your healer and tank if they were comfortable testing their limits?
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  7. #417
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
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  8. #418
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    Noel Regnard
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    And this is the issue. Half of the people in this thread think you're a trash tank if you can't handle any pull size with any healer/dps skill level inside of your party. That a DPS should be able to pull anything they want on top of you regardless of the party situation because you should be able to handle it. It's been apparent to me half of these people don't even tank seriously and likely run the easiest dungeons possible with their FC and static instead of dealing with pugs in the harder situations.
    You're a single puller YPYT who thinks reprisal is good enough for a W2W pull ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Every YPYT involves a tank who refuses to pull more than 1 tiny ass pack at a time
    And don't kid yourself, you don't give a crap about the healers either, just your ego as you've demonstrated time and time again
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  9. #419
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    Quote Originally Posted by noelregnard View Post
    You're a single puller YPYT who thinks reprisal is good enough for a W2W pull ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Every YPYT involves a tank who refuses to pull more than 1 tiny ass pack at a time
    And don't kid yourself, you don't give a crap about the healers either, just your ego as you've demonstrated time and time again
    I've never seen someone so mad over being proven wrong that they accuse the other person of what they themselves said and make assumptions like they can't outright be proven wrong. I was doing double pulls my first time through MSQ on this game, and got up to quadra and penta pulls when I was leveling my other tanks with dungeon spam 2 expansions ago. Livestreamed, a lot. Like I said. You're a Wuk Lamat. Please get off the screen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g5HBFjesVI
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  10. #420
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObscuraFi View Post
    I've never seen someone so mad over being proven wrong that they accuse the other person of what they themselves said and make assumptions like they can't outright be proven wrong. I was doing double pulls my first time through MSQ on this game, and got up to quadra and penta pulls when I was leveling my other tanks with dungeon spam 2 expansions ago. Livestreamed, a lot. Like I said. You're a Wuk Lamat. Please get off the screen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g5HBFjesVI
    LMAO imagine using that baby ass pull that hits like wet noodle as an example (and the RDM vercured you half way there LMAO). And that NPC insult again, you can't stand not being the main character that much eh?
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    Last edited by noelregnard; 07-21-2024 at 01:21 AM.

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