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    Chiru_Kai's Avatar
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    Chiru Kai
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    Brynhildr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    Yes. Because apparently you missed the memo that people don't read in this game.

    That assumption aside, you're a pot calling the kettle black.
    People are more skilled than you give them credit for.

    And yes, I also dislike DPS who don't AOE attack. Assuming the dungeon allows the dps to aoe anyways. And healers who make the tank stressed by letting them get to 20% HP are not okay either. As healer you get like 3x as much healing as you need on oGCDs in normal content so there is no reason for that, just heal.

    But, as for "pot calling the kettle black", it's just wrong. See, majority rule applies here. I assume most people in duty finder are part of the majority. Everyone does. They can do double pulls and vast, VAST majority of my DF experience is double pulls.
    If they are in the minority of being unskilled, unwilling, new, slow, etc. Then they should say so and people will adjust or teach you how to W2W pull.
    It is absolutely disgusting and mean of you to assume that other players are trash at the game and can not keep up with you double pulling, if that's what you're getting at. Don't blame others for your own shortcomings.


    I assure you, it is okay to want the comfort. But hold yourself accountable for it.
    It is not okay to demand that the majority of players adjust for this just by default. Hold yourself accountable for your shortcomings, *request* and *communicate* that you need special attention outside of the expected norm, instead of expecting it silently, and we have absolutely 0 problems.

    YPYT is not communicating, it is stand-offish, and it is a demand, not a request. This puts you straight into the camp of entitlement.

    Expecting W2W pulls silently is just the norm right now. You can whine and complain about it, but it is what it is. It's not entitlement nor a demand. What WOULD be entitlement is if you were to announce you were uncomfortable W2W pulling but it was forced on you anyway. THAT is when it crosses a line and when I would say "yeah the tank not grabbing aggro off of you is your own fault". But I'm also sure that if you are nice about it and say you don't want to W2W pull in party chat, people will be okay with it in the vast majority of cases.
    Is it a hassle for you? Sure. But it's either that, or you learn to W2W pull. The other option of "I want the whole community to change its mindset just for my style of playing and they silently follow my style of tanking" is, in fact, entitlement.

    Aside from that, I've pulled stuff as a healer onto a tank. I'm the one healing the tank, and if I say you can tank it because I heal you, you should tank it. Not grabbing aggro off of me is just a lack of trust in my healing abilities, and it is mean and toxic.
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    ObscuraFi's Avatar
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    Obscura Fides
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiru_Kai View Post
    But, as for "pot calling the kettle black", it's just wrong. See, majority rule applies here. I assume most people in duty finder are part of the majority. Everyone does. They can do double pulls and vast, VAST majority of my DF experience is double pulls.
    Once more, someone proving the point. Vast majority of DF is double pulls, that's not wall to wall in every instance. Wall to wall is sometimes 3-4+ like the last section of Anamnesis Anyder, Stone Vigil, Bardam's Mettle, Doma Castle. The majority does not do wall to wall. 2 packs is what most tanks are comfortable with as their limit for their ability to carry. Anything past that is heavy reliance on the group and not something sprout tanks are going to comfortable with at all but will be forced on them by some dps's.
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