Difficulty of normal content.

[Sqwall]

Normal raids has always been the bridging content between true casual content and extremes, it’s why it’s optional

Normal raids are designed to be tuned to about as hard as the devs are willing to make content with a full pick me up group and no actual strat discussion

EW was the outlier here as besides P3 the rest of them are over glorified trials rather than actual normal raids

P8S would beg to differ.....

And P10S....

Those fights were tuned to the max....

Damn near ultimates.

[Sqwall]

The difficulty isn't the issue I see anymore. At this point....it's skill. The fights are NOT designed to be cheap or punishing. They are designed to teach you. I cleared them all within maybe 2 hours. Only one that gave me trouble was M3 as it took me a while to know max melee and snap shots.

Normal difficulty....yeah feels normal to me. Savage on the other hand....I'm honestly excited for savage this expac. Endwalker felt fair in savage difficulty. Not cheap....fair.

If you think something is cheap....consider this. Others probably learn from those mistakes and get better at the game.

This is your opportunity.

[Sol_Seppy]

P8S would beg to differ.....

And P10S....

Those fights were tuned to the max....

Damn near ultimates.

LMAO no...

[Sqwall]

LMAO no...

LMAO yes...

[Sol_Seppy]

LMAO yes...

for p8s before patch fix? maybe, almost definitely yes.
for p8s after and especially p10?! no lol

[alfarini]

for p8s before patch fix? maybe, almost definitely yes.

so you admit he was right, he never stated what patch. it was still overturned at one point in time. regardless of how it is now.

[Sol_Seppy]

so you admit he was right, he never stated what patch. it was still overturned at one point in time. regardless of how it is now.

I concede to p8s if he was referring to before patch, yes. I'm not above being wrong. But p10s is a complete stretch and I stand by that.

[Theswweet]

for p8s before patch fix? maybe, almost definitely yes.
for p8s after and especially p10?! no lol

If we're directly comparing P8S to the Ultimate raid it unlocked, no, even before the nerf I wouldn't say it was anywhere near the same level as TOP.

[Sqwall]

If we're directly comparing P8S to the Ultimate raid it unlocked, no, even before the nerf I wouldn't say it was anywhere near the same level as TOP.

I said near ultimate....not that it is. I was pretty damn hard. Even the raid designer said it was overtuned and was as difficult as a ultimate.

[Theswweet]

That's a crazy thing to say, considering P8S was the roadblock for progging TOP, which is unequivocally the hardest content in the game.