Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
Raw Intuition only reduced damage but Nascent flash had the healing effect, that's true.
But again, you're blowing things out of proportions, only Warrior had access to this kind of sustain and it wasn't a problem. DRK, GNB and PLD didn't had the sustain and yet the popularity of tank increased.
If sustain was the reason of this increase of popularity, why other tanks gained popularity as well and why didn't it occured earlier when Bloodbath was available?

At some point you'll realize the reasoning that sustain carried the tank popularity makes no sense.

“Tank sustain isn’t actually that good it’s just that healing is so low that tank sustain is actually good”
Yes, and? What is the problem? Apply this question to DPS or Tanks, you'll definitely understand why it is correct.
Imagine if damages taken were so low you could pick 4 DPS, would the problem come from tank?
Imagine if DPS check were so low you could pick 4 Tank and 4 heal, would the problem come from DPS?

Of course not.

As for savage content, again survivorship bias. It is limited to an extreme minority.
Yes I wonder why the tank that got the most sustain immediately jumped to the most played tank. Hell GNB was the new tank in ShB and WAR still has half the collective parses of the entire expansion, WAR’s self sustain contributed to its popularity in ShB and now the tanks can be directly ranked on play numbers by their levels of self sustain. WAR is as popular as it is because of its self sustain

“Imagine this scenario that doesn’t happen is happening and it’s the same thing as this scenario that’s actually happening”

Lack of DPS checks in casual content is never going to remove the DPS because they always make things go faster. Lack of hard mitigation requirements is never going to remove tanks because it’s always more efficient for the tank to hold agro to keep it off others. Lack of necessary healing IS removing healers right now because the tanks can do it for the healer. This would be no different if the DPS could be the healer but they can’t (and no RDM doesn’t count because they have to give up DPS)

Saying a scenario that won’t happen could happen so it’s just as valid as a scenario that is happening is totally flawed logic. And saying “don’t blame the role that benefits from this unequal situation blame the balance” is flawed because you can equalise the balance by nerfing the role that is unequally benefiting from the balance

You also can’t keep passing off savage as a tiny minority as it continues to become more and more common, you should not be clearing an on patch EX with a PF pickup group with 8 tanks and being able to have it repeated 7 seperate times, TOP healerless is an extreme minority, this new wave is only being held back by the fact that you gain no benefit from doing it, doesn’t mean it is actually hard