BLM needs a rework because of new content difficulty

[Sequora]

Yet despite that it still deal more damage than mobile casters in endwalker. Again, the issue rn is that Picto is overtuned and BLM potency need buff

Again… PCT isn’t overtuned. BLM is undertuned.

We have two extreme trials for data points and there’s no reason PCT shouldn’t be up there in terms of rDPS. No rez, similar utility to melee DPS. nDPS is lower than selfish DPS.

[Magikazam]

Again… PCT isn’t overtuned. BLM is undertuned.

We have two extreme trials for data points and there’s no reason PCT shouldn’t be up there in terms of rDPS. No rez, similar utility to melee DPS. nDPS is lower than selfish DPS.

And in the two extreme Trial Picto can outdamage selfish dps by quite a big margin in rDPS. their maximum dps is quite incredible in fact.

[Supersnow845]

And in the two extreme Trial Picto can outdamage selfish dps by quite a big margin in rDPS. their maximum dps is quite incredible in fact.

PCT is about 1000 DPS above the selfish DPS at the 100th percentile but it’s 50th and 75th percentile is below almost all the melee (it’s 75th is above only NIN). It really only pulls ahead by the wide margin it does at the 100th percentile which makes sense for an rDPS job

There is no reason why an rDPS job shouldn’t be first in rDPS, the selfish jobs don’t always have to be first

[Realfoxy]

PCT is about 1000 DPS above the selfish DPS at the 100th percentile but it’s 50th and 75th percentile is below almost all the melee (it’s 75th is above only NIN). It really only pulls ahead by the wide margin it does at the 100th percentile which makes sense for an rDPS job

There is no reason why an rDPS job shouldn’t be first in rDPS, the selfish jobs don’t always have to be first

Correct, at the end of the day DPS is DPS regardless of if it comes from a raid buff or from your personal damage.

The only thing Picto should get penalised for in damage is for its utility in party shield + heal, which are both very minor parts of its kit - so it's OK if it's close to the top in DPS. Right now it's probably a little bit too strong but it doesn't need to be nerfed that much.

[Supersnow845]

Correct, at the end of the day DPS is DPS regardless of if it comes from a raid buff or from your personal damage.

The only thing Picto should get penalised for in damage is for its utility in party shield + heal, which are both very minor parts of its kit - so it's OK if it's close to the top in DPS. Right now it's probably a little bit too strong but it doesn't need to be nerfed that much.

I honestly don’t think it needs to be nerfed at all, if you get a random PCT in your party there is a 99% chance it will do less than a melee at a similar parse level (for example if both your PCT and melee parse a 66 the melee will do more damage) so for most people PCT is sitting in that space we expected of low melee+ utility

It just pulls ahead at the top end because its incredibly rigid burst has massive potential if you can align all your buffs properly. A difficult DPS (the spread on the two extremes show BLM and PCT are the two hardest jobs in the extremes) with a very high skill ceiling that is rewarded with top DPS is perfect balance in my mind.

BLM is undertuned 100% but PCT fighting for the top spot with the selfish melees is totally fine balance because while it has utility its ceiling is higher, for the average person who can’t reach the ceiling it will fall about where people expect it to fall- low melee

[Realfoxy]

I honestly don’t think it needs to be nerfed at all, if you get a random PCT in your party there is a 99% chance it will do less than a melee at a similar parse level (for example if both your PCT and melee parse a 66 the melee will do more damage) so for most people PCT is sitting in that space we expected of low melee+ utility

It just pulls ahead at the top end because its incredibly rigid burst has massive potential if you can align all your buffs properly. A difficult DPS (the spread on the two extremes show BLM and PCT are the two hardest jobs in the extremes) with a very high skill ceiling that is rewarded with top DPS is perfect balance in my mind.

BLM is undertuned 100% but PCT fighting for the top spot with the selfish melees is totally fine balance because while it has utility its ceiling is higher, for the average person who can’t reach the ceiling it will fall about where people expect it to fall- low melee

I don't like PCT being so burst heavy for two reasons:

1. Crit variance

2. Packing so much burst into its long cast prepared spells means that in any fight with downtime, PCT will be much advantaged compared to other jobs

The devs have to walk a tight balance here to make its paintings balanced for full uptime while not making PCT be the number 1 must have pick for ultimates (with their frequent downtime).

[Supersnow845]

I don't like PCT being so burst heavy for two reasons:

1. Crit variance

2. Packing so much burst into its long cast prepared spells means that in any fight with downtime, PCT will be much advantaged compared to other jobs

The devs have to walk a tight balance here to make its paintings balanced for full uptime while not making PCT be the number 1 must have pick for ultimates (with their frequent downtime).

Tools that have uptime benefits in fights with downtime is just a facet of the game and not something that I think needs to be specifically addressed unless they intend to bring back significant downtime to savage

WHM is already the king of damage in ultimates for healers even beating out the buff healers during the burst heavy uptime ultimate phases simply because of lilys

It’s just the way the game is

[Magikazam]

It just pulls ahead at the top end because its incredibly rigid burst has massive potential if you can align all your buffs properly. A difficult DPS (the spread on the two extremes show BLM and PCT are the two hardest jobs in the extremes) with a very high skill ceiling that is rewarded with top DPS is perfect balance in my mind.

BLM is undertuned 100% but PCT fighting for the top spot with the selfish melees is totally fine balance because while it has utility its ceiling is higher, for the average person who can’t reach the ceiling it will fall about where people expect it to fall- low melee

To me it just sound like you got somewhat of a caster bias and just want both the job to just somewhat outperform the rest. If they just make Both PTC and BLM the best dps, this will just push a double caster meta and I don't see how it better than a double melee meta.

[Supersnow845]

To me it just sound like you got somewhat of a caster bias and just want both the job to just somewhat outperform the rest. If they just make Both PTC and BLM the best dps, this will just push a double caster meta and I don't see how it better than a double melee meta.

Because it only pulls ahead right at the 100tj percentile, otherwise it’s right where people expect it to be- competing with the melee

There is no downside to double caster compared to double melee, they should both be viable. PCT is only overtuned at a percentile almost nobody is ever going to reach

[Galvuu]

To me it just sound like you got somewhat of a caster bias and just want both the job to just somewhat outperform the rest. If they just make Both PTC and BLM the best dps, this will just push a double caster meta and I don't see how it better than a double melee meta.

Picto isn't strictly better than melee right now to begin with. It's more or less tied with RPR/SAM/VPR.
This game has had a huge double-melee bias since mid Stormblood... the moment double caster might compete with double melee for highest damage people pose it as a problem.
Even though, in general, PCT and BLM are harder to execute, so they only match double melee at very high levels of play.