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  1. #1091
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    Stapler-san's Avatar
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    Korbo Epocan
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumps004 View Post
    Are people really using this valid discussion about the problems with a character to try and latch this to some fake outrage campaign that has nothing to do with this one character stealing the thunder of others? Grifters are the worst
    grifters are dumb and should be ignored but like it or not the VA is part of the character and a lot of people think she did a bad job
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  2. #1092
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    Vee Lynheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stapler-san View Post
    grifters are dumb and should be ignored but like it or not the VA is part of the character and a lot of people think she did a bad job
    Which still has nothing to do with SBI (sweet baby inc) stuff that has popped up in the last few pages. That is just a fake outrage campaign to garner clicks from grifters wanting to make people rage and has been associated with. every. single. game in the last 6 months by grifters and has 0 merit to actually being associated with the game.

    I agree with the VA being on the weaker side.
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  3. #1093
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    Pocket Prince
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  4. #1094
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumps004 View Post
    Which still has nothing to do with SBI (sweet baby inc) stuff that has popped up in the last few pages. That is just a fake outrage campaign to garner clicks from grifters wanting to make people rage and has been associated with. every. single. game in the last 6 months by grifters and has 0 merit to actually being associated with the game.

    I agree with the VA being on the weaker side.
    When that company has a consistent track record of being linked to companies that write absolutely dog water stories, it's not exactly a fake outrage campaign to go "Is this yet another case of this happening?" A quick Google search would come up with several examples of how scummy these people are. And when your expansion's MC VA ALSO spouts the same absolutely abhorrent stuff on Twitter as they are, this goes beyond conspiracy to "What the actual hell are they doing over at SE?"

    Like, let's be completely honest here. Nobody would give two craps if the story was good. But it's not. So people are going to go looking for reasons why. And since the company isn't going to say "Yeah... We hired people that are just bad at their jobs.", we have to go looking for underlying reasons... And there are massive red flags this expansion, that even if not true, have a lot of people going "Hmmmmmmmm."
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  5. #1095
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    Gwen Lavellan
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    Adding my voice to all the things said before here.

    In the very beginning, I quite liked WL.
    Now that I have finished MSQ, I couldn’t stand her anymore.

    I’m ok to not be the main character, that’s not the problem. The problem is she gets to do everything we usually do, and I’m referring mostly to world interactions and interactions with the scions too.

    What it’s not us who Y’Shtola is calling by Linkpearl, but WL ? Come on girl, we suppose to be close after all these years!

    And why, after a big Krile and, later, Erenville moment, do I have to “speak to Wuk Lamat” just for her to be the one to adress them about how they are feeling?

    That’s disheartening to me.

    I’m playing since 2016 so, even if I’m sometimes kind of fed up with the scions, they are supposed to be my close people in Eorzea, since WoL apparently doesn’t have a family.

    Edit : the final trial thing added insult to injuries.
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    Last edited by Gwen_Lavellan; 07-08-2024 at 05:49 AM.

  6. #1096
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    Please stop, it's embarrassing, channel Ben Shapiro somewhere else. The story is bad because it's written badly, not because of some wildly imagined political agenda.
    Kate is literally on video in many streams talking about pushing woke politics proudly into square enix's games.
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  7. #1097
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    Geezus, the things people get mad about. Wuk Lamat is fine. She's like 90% of every other character in FF14. I started the expansion very meh about the story. Interest piqued halfway. Went back to meh briefly, then was piqued again for the remainder. Which, if I'm being brutally honest, is similar to just about every previous expansion (Shadowbringers might be the only one that was interesting throughout most of it).

    Is it dumb that we, the WoL, stand by and let various people die? Sure. But, it's hardly the first time. It's a fictional story in a video game. It's never been particularly sensible, and it just feels like nothing can simply be enjoyed on the internet any longer. Everything has to be dissected into problems because outrage is what gets clicks.

    As far as the voice acting, it's hard not to think there's an undertone of racism involved, as it's easy to imagine if Wuk-Lamat had a European accent, all that outrage would vanish. Personally, I'm not blind to my own biases. I don't generally associate positive vibes to South American accents. But, the VA is good, my own prejudices over the accent aside.

    Anyway, I never post. But, it just feels like everything everywhere is torn down through concerted fake outrage (that's so far down its own butthole that its essentially transformed into real outrage), and maybe normal people need to start speaking up so creators don't feel like the entire world has gone down the outrage vortex.
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  8. #1098
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    Aure Rainn
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingtolerantly View Post
    As far as the voice acting, it's hard not to think there's an undertone of racism involved, as it's easy to imagine if Wuk-Lamat had a European accent, all that outrage would vanish. Personally, I'm not blind to my own biases. I don't generally associate positive vibes to South American accents. But, the VA is good, my own prejudices over the accent aside.
    This is first time hearing this, are you saying the accent isn't fake? The VA isn't north american? Where does this racism come from? Literally first time I've heard ANYONE have this take, I can see your mentioned bias for sure. One of the most common complaints are that she DROPS the accent sometimes by accident.
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  9. #1099
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingtolerantly View Post
    Geezus, the things people get mad about. Wuk Lamat is fine. She's like 90% of every other character in FF14. I started the expansion very meh about the story. Interest piqued halfway. Went back to meh briefly, then was piqued again for the remainder. Which, if I'm being brutally honest, is similar to just about every previous expansion (Shadowbringers might be the only one that was interesting throughout most of it).

    Is it dumb that we, the WoL, stand by and let various people die? Sure. But, it's hardly the first time. It's a fictional story in a video game. It's never been particularly sensible, and it just feels like nothing can simply be enjoyed on the internet any longer. Everything has to be dissected into problems because outrage is what gets clicks.

    As far as the voice acting, it's hard not to think there's an undertone of racism involved, as it's easy to imagine if Wuk-Lamat had a European accent, all that outrage would vanish. Personally, I'm not blind to my own biases. I don't generally associate positive vibes to South American accents. But, the VA is good, my own prejudices over the accent aside.

    Anyway, I never post. But, it just feels like everything everywhere is torn down through concerted fake outrage (that's so far down its own butthole that its essentially transformed into real outrage), and maybe normal people need to start speaking up so creators don't feel like the entire world has gone down the outrage vortex.
    Are you really trying to silence criticism with the word racism now and that all with critisism are not normal people? How disgusting.

    Almost every negative review on almost all sites cites Wuk Lamat as the reason for that. I think that should at least tell that there might me a point in all that.
    At least others here give some kind of reason why they like the story.

    I don't even wait to put you on my ignore list.
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  10. #1100
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    Lavender Listhea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    Kate is literally on video in many streams talking about pushing woke politics proudly into square enix's games.
    got a link?
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