Player's Poll: FFXIV or FFXI-2?

[Medved]

Actually,

QED. Don't ask for a tougher grind. Ask for a tougher challenge. Grind is Yawn. Challenging mobs, moderately lengthy quest lines with awesome rewards, unlocking new powers and degrees of skill, unlocking tweaks to ability and appearance all sound a LOT MORE FUN....than Crab Grinding, Sprout Grinding, Miscellaneous Ghost Grinding, and strange Bird who steals my food effects grinding...just saying.

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+1000 this and thx for remembering me those special FFXI moments:

Medved use red curry +1
Medved>Yeah hurt time !!
The Greater Colibri use Snatch Morsel
Medved>Wait, where the f*** is my 50k food ????

great times Sir...

[Meleena]

Voted for FFXIV only because OP is makes FFXI look good and FFXIV look bad..
He only adresses the good points of FFXI while ignoring the bad, while he focuses on the bad aspect of some FFXIV's good points.

Both game types should be compaired equally on a poll

[Zaaku]

What... I am really trying to understand is this.

Why are you playing FFXIV?

I don't mean to imply you should go play a different MMO because I disagree with your opinions. That is just childish but I am *curious* what is drawing you to this particular game. I am here because I am holding out hope that the devs come to their senses and model 2.0 for a more FFXI-esqe difficulty curve and emphasis on leveling while maintaining a mysterious and dangerous world. I am sitting here with that hope because they have set a precedent for FFXI. It stands to reason that they are more likely then anyone else out there right now to create the kind of challenge I am seeking.

What I fail to get is why everyone who wants easier leveling and more end game content to be the bulk of the game are sitting around in FFXIV, which lets be honest is still kind of a gambit since 2.0 could go either way, when there are other MMO's out right now that already are keyed and geared for that? That do not have to drag their broken limp mangled half corpses out of the pit of failure just to break even?

The combat is hardly engaging. The end game is in its infancy and nothing notable. The world is bland and copy pasted to the point that it is an inside joke with SE. The only thing I can figure people would stick around for is the story. a Final Fantasy driven story. Which I myself and looking forward too but that also puzzles me. The reason each expansions quest line was so interesting and vivid was because of the difficulty it presented to its players. There were a few fetch quests and things you could run alone but a sizable portion of the missions involved very hard fights and traveling to just frighteningly dangerous areas. (I'm looking at you ToAU.) It seems like many people want more solo story yet it defeats the purpose of a powerful narrative if everything has been casualized down and made possible without a group.

[Pandastirfry]

What... I am really trying to understand is this.

Why are you playing FFXIV?

I don't mean to imply you should go play a different MMO because I disagree with your opinions. That is just childish but I am *curious* what is drawing you to this particular game. I am here because I am holding out hope that the devs come to their senses and model 2.0 for a more FFXI-esqe difficulty curve and emphasis on leveling while maintaining a mysterious and dangerous world. I am sitting here with that hope because they have set a precedent for FFXI. It stands to reason that they are more likely then anyone else out there right now to create the kind of challenge I am seeking.

What I fail to get is why everyone who wants easier leveling and more end game content to be the bulk of the game are sitting around in FFXIV, which lets be honest is still kind of a gambit since 2.0 could go either way, when there are other MMO's out right now that already are keyed and geared for that? That do not have to drag their broken limp mangled half corpses out of the pit of failure just to break even?

The combat is hardly engaging. The end game is in its infancy and nothing notable. The world is bland and copy pasted to the point that it is an inside joke with SE. The only thing I can figure people would stick around for is the story. a Final Fantasy driven story. Which I myself and looking forward too but that also puzzles me. The reason each expansions quest line was so interesting and vivid was because of the difficulty it presented to its players. There were a few fetch quests and things you could run alone but a sizable portion of the missions involved very hard fights and traveling to just frighteningly dangerous areas. (I'm looking at you ToAU.) It seems like many people want more solo story yet it defeats the purpose of a powerful narrative if everything has been casualized down and made possible without a group.

we got it, you loved XI, it was your favorite Final Fantasy, you can stop talking now!

[Zaaku]

YOU CAN'T SILENCE THE CHILDREN OF THE REVOLUTION!

[Pandastirfry]

Children of the revolution?

The revolution happened... You lost..

[Zaaku]

Children of the revolution?

The revolution happened... You lost..

We will never come home. We will always be out there. In that forest.

...The fight against the worms will never end...

Also according to the poll so far there is a notable lead in those who want more difficult content. I would hardly say we lost, merely a tactical retreat. :P

[Pandastirfry]

No you biased poll on a forum populated by the fatithful is having the "desired" effect. Ask this same question of the larger gaming public and I can almost assure the results would be vastly different ( particularly the do you want XIV or XI-2 which would be probably answered with "neither, both suck")

You are pining for the days of the old tyrant...

The king is dead, Long live the Republic!

[Zaaku]

No you biased poll on a forum populated by the fatithful is having the "desired" effect. Ask this same question of the larger gaming public and I can almost assure the results would be vastly different ( particularly the do you want XIV or XI-2 which would be probably answered with "neither, both suck")

You are pining for the days of the old tyrant...

The king is dead, Long live the Republic!

THE COURTS ARE CORRUPT! THE SENATORS BOUGHT!

We must return to the Wisdom of the Monarchy.

(You say biased I say honest. It is pretty black and white. "Do you want harder content and all the struggle that implies. Or the current system of cap fast die hard?")

[Elgeron]

NO, Title of the thread: Player´s poll: FFXIV or FXI-2?

You are not asking just for an harder game, you are just asking for FXI-2.

WE want an harder game but I will say this and please read it carefully: Harder don´t mean FFXI-2, it doesn´t need to be a copy to be HARDER. OPTIONS, there are a lot of options to make this an unique game, there is a lot of things changing right now.

Now answer me, FF 2 to FF 10 should have been just like FF 1 ? Should FF 6 be like 4 or 10 like 9 ?, NO, just because you don´t like it, it doesn´t mean is bad.

Without changes, FF XI would have never existed, damn even FF 6, 7, 8 and a lot more wouldn´t exist because the FF saga would have die long ago without those changes.

There will be mistakes, there will be unhappy people, maybe 2.0 just bring more sorrow, infact, I´m sure 2.0 will be just the begining of the real FF XIV. You want to know what I´m playing do you? Well then I tell you, because it´s Final Fantasy XIV, its unique and different and full of potential, even if it did a lot wrong, what it have now attract me, is a game a like now, but it is a game I could love someday. If it fails, then I will go and I won´t complain, because it was me who pick to play this game, and the good things I enjoyed, yes doesn´t matter how hard is for you to believe that someone enjoyed something from this game, will stay with me.

If that make me a fool, then so be it. I respect that you prefer FFX-2 Zaaku, and I´m sorry it changes so much that the old fans just can´t continue playing, but stop trying to backup you opinion tricking the people with biassed options, when only, what, 100-120 people have voted? What about the thousand of players that are playing and don´t give a damn about the forums, or just don´t speak english ?

And thats not revolution, thats just the opposite, going back to the old, stopping the changes just because the unfinished product you have now, in wich you can give opinions, ideas and even participate in differents poll to help it evolutionate, doesn´t please you.

If Yoshy-P read this, what would you think he would say ? He and his team are working hard to make real his vision, and now the people he want to please, the fans who he asked their opinions, are just telling him " You work is useless and we don´t care of what you intended to do with this game, give us FFXI with better gaphics " yeah, thats feel good isn´t it?

So to conclude, please understand this.

We want an harder and challenging game, but what we don´t want is FFXI all over again, it was great and for that we will remember it as we remember the others FF, but what we really want is the real FFXIV, we want it to reaches it maximum potential. We are learning and enjoying the game as it is now while we wait, because it have things we like and that will be better when they finish FF XIV atlast, giving our opinions and ideas.

And one more thing, there is a lot of ways to do a game LONG and HARD, not just like FFXI did.

Thanks for reading, sorry again for another rant and sorry Zaaku if I say something offensive, it isn´t my intetion at all ^^U