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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I actually wish I had the ability to miss the point this hard

    This is like a piece of art, can this skill be taught
    nah you don't have too, i can guess what group you from already
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    nah you don't have too, i can guess what group you from already
    Please go right ahead, according to the people who don’t support the strike I’ve already been called
    -toxic raider
    -sylphie
    -ultimate try hard
    -only wish you were good enough to do extremes
    -YouTuber bootlicker
    -ungrateful
    -too good at this game to have an opinion
    -not good enough at the game to have an opinion

    Please add to my list, I’m going for a full house at this point
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Please go right ahead, according to the people who don’t support the strike I’ve already been called
    -toxic raider
    -sylphie
    -ultimate try hard
    -only wish you were good enough to do extremes
    -YouTuber bootlicker
    -ungrateful
    -too good at this game to have an opinion
    -not good enough at the game to have an opinion

    Please add to my list, I’m going for a full house at this point
    you miss: minion in my post, way to critical other while you also have it
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    you miss: minion in my post, way to critical other while you also have it
    Can you repeat this in English please
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Can you repeat this in English please
    oh well, that's other way to deal with situation, nope
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I actually wish I had the ability to miss the point this hard

    This is like a piece of art, can this skill be taught
    It's not missing the point at all. There's an entire thread populated mainly with "strike" people trying to act as if a small group of elite streamers clearing a dungeon without a healer means anything for the typical player, plus it was originally brought up by the strike cabal in the strike thread itself. But attack the person when you can't refute the point, right?
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It's not missing the point at all. There's an entire thread populated mainly with "strike" people trying to act as if a small group of elite streamers clearing a dungeon without a healer means anything for the typical player, plus it was originally brought up by the strike cabal in the strike thread itself. But attack the person when you can't refute the point, right?
    That person is implying it’s xeno’s minions attempting to stir up drama because they don’t like healer, that is physically the furthest thing you could get from the truth while still having it somewhat resemble the actual arguments being made

    Especially when they also said “trying to make everyone believe nobody likes healers”, no we don’t like healers which is why we aren’t playing them, and none of us have any connection to xeno, I don’t even like xeno

    Their representation of our “claim” is also completely wrong and the idea of “f off back to WOW rather than leaving complaints” is just pathetic deflection of criticism. This problem has almost nothing to do with xeno at all he is just the straw that broke the camels back

    So no I’m not going to pretend to refute their point because they didn’t have one in the first place and the subsequent points I’m not attacking them I physically do not understand what they are saying

    you miss: minion in my post, way to critical other while you also have it

    This sentence by them literally make no sense to me
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It's not missing the point at all. There's an entire thread populated mainly with "strike" people trying to act as if a small group of elite streamers clearing a dungeon without a healer means anything for the typical player, plus it was originally brought up by the strike cabal in the strike thread itself.
    Nobody claimed the that one video was the problem. It was a trigger sure, and it's a nice example how bad you can play and still get through a dungeon without much troubles without a healer, but the problems have existed for years. And there have been lots of other complaints about healers for years. Many healers have spend countless hours detailing all the problems with healers. And multiple healers have publicly announced their departure specifically over the state of healers in FF, long before the strike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    But attack the person when you can't refute the point, right?
    You mean with stuff like characterizing people you disagree with as a "strike cabal"? Then yes, I agree that's not showing a willingness for a good faith conversation.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 06-22-2024 at 11:00 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    I'm quite serious about not enjoying packing and carrying heavy boxes every which way just because someone tells me to do so, but if a friend asks for a bit of help moving into a new place, in the words of the great Gimli, "They have my effort."

    That's how friendships and other relationships work. You do a thing you don't enjoy because your friend understands you don't enjoy it, appreciates that you're going to do it anyway, and will endeavor to do the similarly for you in the future.
    Taking your analogy a step further, if you were boycotting (because this is really a boycott and nothing like an actual strike) carrying heavy boxes around and had made that clear, then one would hope if they are truly friends they would support your decision and not ask you to carry heavy boxes for them. Otherwise are you really committed to boycotting carrying heavy boxes around if you do it whenever the right person asks?

    That's what healers who aren't leaving the role entirely are doing to their point. They are undermining it with exceptions. It's not really hard to see why so many aren't taking this seriously if the participants themselves aren't showing full commitment.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So have your friends been reciprocating
    Yes, actually. And I do not appreciate you questioning their sincerity. If you're going to have to gall to do so, have the decency to do it to their face.
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