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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Yey he has done the reverse of what he said.
    I simply wanted to point out that they haven't ignored the feedback "since SHB released".
    A lot of people use that as a point for the Healer Strike that SE haven't listened to feedback for years and years, which shown by this isn't true.
    They've listened, and most likely seen post EW release as well.
    They simply didn't find the feedback needed most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I simply wanted to point out that they haven't ignored the feedback "since SHB released".
    A lot of people use that as a point for the Healer Strike that SE haven't listened to feedback for years and years, which shown by this isn't true.
    They've listened, and most likely seen post EW release as well.
    They simply didn't find the feedback needed most likely.
    Yoshi P’s “response” doesn’t even align with what the majority of people are complaining about against the strike. Gemina is getting ripped to shreds because she started the initial post and doesn’t do savage and wants casual content to be fixed, other people have supported her on the casual front and others have brought in problems with the savage design.

    SGE does nothing to address this nor does “playing ultimate” as it has the same problems as savage

    If a response completely misses the point of the feedback and doesn’t even resolve the issues it barely counts as a response because it shows they are no engaging with the point of our feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yoshi P’s “response” doesn’t even align with what the majority of people are complaining about against the strike. Gemina is getting ripped to shreds because she started the initial post and doesn’t do savage and wants casual content to be fixed, other people have supported her on the casual front and others have brought in problems with the savage design.

    SGE does nothing to address this nor does “playing ultimate” as it has the same problems as savage

    If a response completely misses the point of the feedback and doesn’t even resolve the issues it barely counts as a response because it shows they are no engaging with the point of our feedback
    Feedback is never a certainty to get adressed.
    People leave feedback, devs go through them and decide if it's something worth doing something about or not.
    Clearly Yoshi and the team haven't found any of the feedback they've read worth it apparently.
    They seem to have another vision of how they want to go forward.

    However, if said Strike blooms up enough, probably not through ingame meassures like disrupted duty queues, too few for that I think, but in publicity.
    If FFXIV's reputation could start take a hit they might start reconsider their plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Feedback is never a certainty to get adressed.
    People leave feedback, devs go through them and decide if it's something worth doing something about or not.
    Clearly Yoshi and the team haven't found any of the feedback they've read worth it apparently.
    They seem to have another vision of how they want to go forward.

    However, if said Strike blooms up enough, probably not through ingame meassures like disrupted duty queues, too few for that I think, but in publicity.
    If FFXIV's reputation could start take a hit they might start reconsider their plans.
    That just circles back round to the Kaiten problem

    If you have a vision and you won’t deviate from it other than than incredibly minorly then why are you even asking for feedback

    We all saw from Kaiten that they didn’t have any player based justification to remove it, they just did it because they wanted to and tried to retroactively justify it with feedback (that nobody could find)
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    That just circles back round to the Kaiten problem

    If you have a vision and you won’t deviate from it other than than incredibly minorly then why are you even asking for feedback

    We all saw from Kaiten that they didn’t have any player based justification to remove it, they just did it because they wanted to and tried to retroactively justify it with feedback (that nobody could find)
    I guess if a feedback could work within the parameters of their visions of things they could consider it?
    From that 2021 interview they mentioned that the downtimes and that, but still didn't think adding more dps spells (like a bunch of people suggests) would work out.
    There's probably more but wasn't brought up, I can't imagine how long such a list could get if developers started commentings on all feedback that wasn't "accepted".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I guess if a feedback could work within the parameters of their visions of things they could consider it?
    From that 2021 interview they mentioned that the downtimes and that, but still didn't think adding more dps spells (like a bunch of people suggests) would work out.
    There's probably more but wasn't brought up, I can't imagine how long such a list could get if developers started commentings on all feedback that wasn't "accepted".
    That basically amounts to “tell us what we want to hear or we will ignore it” which isn’t feedback it’s requesting yes men
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    That basically amounts to “tell us what we want to hear or we will ignore it” which isn’t feedback it’s requesting yes men
    Well you can be glad that I have no idea how SE does when considering feedback or not.
    All I can say are my own thoughts, nothing grounded on facts.
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