Just stop playing healer

[Evergrey]

Frankly players shouldn't need to announce a strike to get feedback that has been consistently appearing on this forum for years since SHB released to get some sort of attention.

Yoshi did comment on Healer feedbacks before Endwalker release during a interview at the Media Tour 2021


"Yoshida: So I totally understand that those healers that have a very high player skill level and they’ve really mastered their jobs go into these different raids or battles and when they do have some downtime between their heals they do cast more offensive spells. Some of them desire to have more technical aspects of it so they are more active and I totally understand that sentiment. But of course the basis of a healer is to heal so I think the development team and I have this thinking of getting that sense of exhilaration from doing really good heal work.

That being said I don’t think we would do any sort of dramatic addition of offensive skills moving forward. By having these offensive abilities some players, like new healers, might feel pressured like “oh do I have to have good DPS while I’m healing?” or some players might be aggressive like “oh hey you have an offensive skill in your kit, why don’t you use it?” and I don’t think that’s optimal either.

But of course we do have the new job, Sage, which will allow for this unique gameplay where if you land an attack it heals at the same time. Or if there’s like a particular barrier ability that you cast and once that’s depleted it increases the resource which could lead to an attack which is very unique. I think players would be interested in trying that out for sure. "

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...nterview_2021/

[BunnyQueen]

Yoshi did comment on Healer feedbacks before Endwalker release during a interview at the Media Tour 2021


"Yoshida: So I totally understand that those healers that have a very high player skill level and they’ve really mastered their jobs go into these different raids or battles and when they do have some downtime between their heals they do cast more offensive spells. Some of them desire to have more technical aspects of it so they are more active and I totally understand that sentiment. But of course the basis of a healer is to heal so I think the development team and I have this thinking of getting that sense of exhilaration from doing really good heal work.

That being said I don’t think we would do any sort of dramatic addition of offensive skills moving forward. By having these offensive abilities some players, like new healers, might feel pressured like “oh do I have to have good DPS while I’m healing?” or some players might be aggressive like “oh hey you have an offensive skill in your kit, why don’t you use it?” and I don’t think that’s optimal either.

But of course we do have the new job, Sage, which will allow for this unique gameplay where if you land an attack it heals at the same time. Or if there’s like a particular barrier ability that you cast and once that’s depleted it increases the resource which could lead to an attack which is very unique. I think players would be interested in trying that out for sure. "

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...nterview_2021/

Yey he has done the reverse of what he said.

[Evergrey]

Yey he has done the reverse of what he said.

I simply wanted to point out that they haven't ignored the feedback "since SHB released".
A lot of people use that as a point for the Healer Strike that SE haven't listened to feedback for years and years, which shown by this isn't true.
They've listened, and most likely seen post EW release as well.
They simply didn't find the feedback needed most likely.

[Supersnow845]

I simply wanted to point out that they haven't ignored the feedback "since SHB released".
A lot of people use that as a point for the Healer Strike that SE haven't listened to feedback for years and years, which shown by this isn't true.
They've listened, and most likely seen post EW release as well.
They simply didn't find the feedback needed most likely.

Yoshi P’s “response” doesn’t even align with what the majority of people are complaining about against the strike. Gemina is getting ripped to shreds because she started the initial post and doesn’t do savage and wants casual content to be fixed, other people have supported her on the casual front and others have brought in problems with the savage design.

SGE does nothing to address this nor does “playing ultimate” as it has the same problems as savage

If a response completely misses the point of the feedback and doesn’t even resolve the issues it barely counts as a response because it shows they are no engaging with the point of our feedback

[Evergrey]

Yoshi P’s “response” doesn’t even align with what the majority of people are complaining about against the strike. Gemina is getting ripped to shreds because she started the initial post and doesn’t do savage and wants casual content to be fixed, other people have supported her on the casual front and others have brought in problems with the savage design.

SGE does nothing to address this nor does “playing ultimate” as it has the same problems as savage

If a response completely misses the point of the feedback and doesn’t even resolve the issues it barely counts as a response because it shows they are no engaging with the point of our feedback

Feedback is never a certainty to get adressed.
People leave feedback, devs go through them and decide if it's something worth doing something about or not.
Clearly Yoshi and the team haven't found any of the feedback they've read worth it apparently.
They seem to have another vision of how they want to go forward.

However, if said Strike blooms up enough, probably not through ingame meassures like disrupted duty queues, too few for that I think, but in publicity.
If FFXIV's reputation could start take a hit they might start reconsider their plans.

[Supersnow845]

Feedback is never a certainty to get adressed.
People leave feedback, devs go through them and decide if it's something worth doing something about or not.
Clearly Yoshi and the team haven't found any of the feedback they've read worth it apparently.
They seem to have another vision of how they want to go forward.

However, if said Strike blooms up enough, probably not through ingame meassures like disrupted duty queues, too few for that I think, but in publicity.
If FFXIV's reputation could start take a hit they might start reconsider their plans.

That just circles back round to the Kaiten problem

If you have a vision and you won’t deviate from it other than than incredibly minorly then why are you even asking for feedback

We all saw from Kaiten that they didn’t have any player based justification to remove it, they just did it because they wanted to and tried to retroactively justify it with feedback (that nobody could find)

[Evergrey]

That just circles back round to the Kaiten problem

If you have a vision and you won’t deviate from it other than than incredibly minorly then why are you even asking for feedback

We all saw from Kaiten that they didn’t have any player based justification to remove it, they just did it because they wanted to and tried to retroactively justify it with feedback (that nobody could find)

I guess if a feedback could work within the parameters of their visions of things they could consider it?
From that 2021 interview they mentioned that the downtimes and that, but still didn't think adding more dps spells (like a bunch of people suggests) would work out.
There's probably more but wasn't brought up, I can't imagine how long such a list could get if developers started commentings on all feedback that wasn't "accepted".