Just stop playing healer

[Ramiee]

They just barely made it.

But they still made it, which is a problem especially since this was the same patch it released. Old ultimates from 7 years ago can't be cleared healerless yet the latest one was.
Make all the excuses you want but the fact its possible shows that the healer role can be managed by DPS and Tanks, the healer can't even do what its made for at the top level.

Please, try to replicate this achievement. Or find anyone on PF who can replicate this achievement.

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Enjoy, but that requires endless forum spam and drama because....?

You are engaging with the discourse you can avoid it if you want. The world doesn't revolve around you let people debate on a topic.

You're not even vaguely that important. Sorry, Striker44, you're right. It is the diva mentality.

Meh not even part of the strike ive been a dps main since ShB, I just support the strike because I want everyone who plays the game to have fun.
Also its interesting to see the forums actually get a bunch of people talking, you often see the same few people.

[TBerry]

But they still made it, which is a problem especially since this was the same patch it released. Old ultimates from 7 years ago can't be cleared healerless yet the latest one was.
Make all the excuses you want but the fact its possible shows that the healer role can be managed by DPS and Tanks, the healer can't even do what its made for at the top level.

I'd like to point out that RDM uses both Black Magic and White Magic. Also Summoner has healing in their kit. I doubt they would've made it without at least RDM.

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

I'd like to point out that RDM uses both Black Magic and White Magic. Also Summoner has healing in their kit. I doubt they would've made it without at least RDM.

Summoner does not have healing in their kit. Physick doesn't count

[KageTokage]

Summoner does not have healing in their kit. Physick doesn't count

It's had Phoenix's regen and is going to get a potent AoE heal from Solar Bahamut at level 100...

[Aword3213]

Summoner does not have healing in their kit. Physick doesn't count

Maybe English isn't your first language?

A lot of you are forgetting that trials are part of the MSQ and you're going to need healers for those. Not everyone is going to play WAR. And not everyone that does is going to be willing to heal when folks inevitably step in doodoo. You're not protesting, you're just making the game worse for everyone else.

They're not obligated to play healers. You can just pick up healers to fill the queue.

[Jojoya]

But they still made it, which is a problem especially since this was the same patch it released. Old ultimates from 7 years ago can't be cleared healerless yet the latest one was.
Make all the excuses you want but the fact its possible shows that the healer role can be managed by DPS and Tanks, the healer can't even do what its made for at the top level.

You're skipping the part where it still took them over 200 wipes after they had refined their strategy for RNG to work in their favor with a lot of deaths just barely avoided by 2-3 HP.

If you don't enjoy healing, then don't heal. No one needs to announce what they like or don't like playing to the player base.

That many of the strikers are going to continue to play healer for their friends and statics shows they're what others are calling them - divas looking for attention.

If they were serious about not enjoying healing, they would not play healer for anyone or for any reason.

All credit to those who are serious and are quitting healing altogether. Gaming would be in a better place if more players followed their example and stuck to playing only what they enjoyed instead of doing whatever it takes to get useless pixel rewards.

Me? I still enjoy healing so I'll continue to be a healer. The occasions I've played with a group capable of smoothly completing content without a healer have been few. And when I say smoothly, I mean without unnecessary deaths caused by the lack of a healer in the party. That's the role of a healer - to keep the tanks alive so they can tank, keep DPS alive so they can deal damage. A healerless group clearing content by the skin of their teeth after multiple deaths and probably a few wipes is not impressive.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

You're skipping the part where it still took them over 200 wipes after they had refined their strategy for RNG to work in their favor with a lot of deaths just barely avoided by 2-3 HP.

If you don't enjoy healing, then don't heal. No one needs to announce what they like or don't like playing to the player base.

People are announcing on official forums their feedback about a role they loved and have since come to find totally unenjoyable due to changes over the years. I don't agree with x or y persons feedback over some things but the amount of people so butthurt over healers giving feedback is baffling. For years they gave feedback and the most we got was go do ultimate from Yoshi P, he has since acknowledged they overdid the changes for jobs overall so now is as good a time as any to say what you don't like and why.

Frankly players shouldn't need to announce a strike to get feedback that has been consistently appearing on this forum for years since SHB released to get some sort of attention.

For instance I disagree with many BLM players over mana tick changes, I say good riddance. Players who disagree with me should still announce what they dislike, why and that they will stop playing x role as a result if that is the case. If nobody bothered to announce why they take the action they do nothing changes cause devs have no clue what we want. Really poor take from you.

The trinity in casual content only being propped up by duty finder forcing a healers presence is a bad look, the hardest fight in game being cleared on content with no healer at all is a further kick in the teeth regardless how slim the margins were. Being frequently told to go solo heal x or y content if I want a challenge is terrible, because it shows how little healers are needed. Others are saying to go do pf content more and not be in groups that know what they are doing, essentially saying I and other healers shouldn't play with our statics if we want to be engaged. Just stop playing with your friends if you want some engaging combat! Honestly terrible suggestions from non healers and casual healers I've seen the past week.

One of the core foundations of the combat in this game, the trinity, is barely present anymore and that's terrible.

[Evergrey]

Frankly players shouldn't need to announce a strike to get feedback that has been consistently appearing on this forum for years since SHB released to get some sort of attention.

Yoshi did comment on Healer feedbacks before Endwalker release during a interview at the Media Tour 2021


"Yoshida: So I totally understand that those healers that have a very high player skill level and they’ve really mastered their jobs go into these different raids or battles and when they do have some downtime between their heals they do cast more offensive spells. Some of them desire to have more technical aspects of it so they are more active and I totally understand that sentiment. But of course the basis of a healer is to heal so I think the development team and I have this thinking of getting that sense of exhilaration from doing really good heal work.

That being said I don’t think we would do any sort of dramatic addition of offensive skills moving forward. By having these offensive abilities some players, like new healers, might feel pressured like “oh do I have to have good DPS while I’m healing?” or some players might be aggressive like “oh hey you have an offensive skill in your kit, why don’t you use it?” and I don’t think that’s optimal either.

But of course we do have the new job, Sage, which will allow for this unique gameplay where if you land an attack it heals at the same time. Or if there’s like a particular barrier ability that you cast and once that’s depleted it increases the resource which could lead to an attack which is very unique. I think players would be interested in trying that out for sure. "

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...nterview_2021/

[BunnyQueen]

Yoshi did comment on Healer feedbacks before Endwalker release during a interview at the Media Tour 2021


"Yoshida: So I totally understand that those healers that have a very high player skill level and they’ve really mastered their jobs go into these different raids or battles and when they do have some downtime between their heals they do cast more offensive spells. Some of them desire to have more technical aspects of it so they are more active and I totally understand that sentiment. But of course the basis of a healer is to heal so I think the development team and I have this thinking of getting that sense of exhilaration from doing really good heal work.

That being said I don’t think we would do any sort of dramatic addition of offensive skills moving forward. By having these offensive abilities some players, like new healers, might feel pressured like “oh do I have to have good DPS while I’m healing?” or some players might be aggressive like “oh hey you have an offensive skill in your kit, why don’t you use it?” and I don’t think that’s optimal either.

But of course we do have the new job, Sage, which will allow for this unique gameplay where if you land an attack it heals at the same time. Or if there’s like a particular barrier ability that you cast and once that’s depleted it increases the resource which could lead to an attack which is very unique. I think players would be interested in trying that out for sure. "

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...nterview_2021/

Yey he has done the reverse of what he said.

[Evergrey]

Yey he has done the reverse of what he said.

I simply wanted to point out that they haven't ignored the feedback "since SHB released".
A lot of people use that as a point for the Healer Strike that SE haven't listened to feedback for years and years, which shown by this isn't true.
They've listened, and most likely seen post EW release as well.
They simply didn't find the feedback needed most likely.